Nothing happened. You report a troll and don’t even get a response. Really useful feature, I can see why this board is doing so well at fighting ignorance.
Seriously- you reported it less than an hour ago. You’ve been a member since 2004 and you know that it takes time for the assigned mods to get notfication of reports and to decide when and if to act. For the most part, mods do not respond to reports from other forums so even if we are engaged in discussion in this forum we generally do not moderate it.
Sounds like you’ve already figured out all the options. We can all go home now.
Happy to help
Just for the record I just reviewed this thread and cannot find a SINGLE post in which a poster referred to “men” and “females”. Shodan and octopus have used “women” as have many other posters, I’ve done “males” and “females”, there’s a “women” and “guys”, some “women” and “men”, and even a “women” and “males” …
It may be a reddit meme but you are imagining that “lovely language choice” here.
I’m guessing I’ve used it from time to time, without intending to offend. No I can’t provide an example. Reddit thread explains it springs from an inclination to avoid issues.
Well, it’s certainly worth asking, IMHO, whether the boards have taken a turn for the worse, or whether it would be good to reevaluate the way we’ve always done things. The first, for example, wouldn’t cause me to reexamine my own behavior, the second will.
Maybe you wanna talk with your boy?
ETA: come on. You’re smart enough to see it, Amiright?
I think one issue is that the moderation tends to focus on the essence of a post, in the most positive way. So someone posts something like 'Imagine a genie appears and gives you a choice: a wife that always put out, a wife that cooks like a dream, or a wife that keeps the house clean and running like a top. Which do you chose?" And someone says “ewww, that’s gross, you’re talking like women are dogs or robots, like they are plug-in-play toys” and then the mods come in and say “This was a gross way to say this, but I can see an interesting question here–what is the key to a happy marriage?” And everyone nods their heads. Like Slug’s drawings ( and I agree about those!), we are supposed to ignore the grossness because it’s just the rhetoric, and discuss the “real” question. And so the grossness is quickly forgotten by people that weren’t really chilled by it. However, it lingers for women–because we see in posts like that the lurking possibility that the OP and the audience he was writing for (which clearly isn’t me) really do think about wives and marriage and women like that—as products with different feature bundles.
My suggestion would be that threads like that be shut down immediately, and the OP invited to re-open a thread asking the same question without the “flavor text” that dehumanizes women (or whatever group). No warning, just “The way you phrase this makes it sound like women are just things in your hypothetical. If you’re interested in talking about whether sex, housework, or cooking is more important in a marriage, please open a new threat and write it in a way that assumes everyone in a marriage is a person”.
I think you make good points, and I especially some of the stuff you wrote in the other threads, but I think this goes too far. Or maybe it doesn’t go too far I don’t know.
Me, personally, I like it when I know that people think I’m trash or a loser or a dumb piece of shit for having a blue collar job, I enjoy how blunt and condescending MSmith is - its refreshing, get it all out. Not everyone is like that though, and maybe my situation isn’t analogous.
You know what, that would be a pretty hard core change but I wouldn’t mind it.
Why can’t women feel safe when walking from their car to their apartment? Why are most serial killers men? It’s like you don’t understand basic facts about sociology or biology and then blame women. Our entire society is based on men and their inherent power-be it brute strength, brotherhoods or financial advantage. Don’t think for a minute that any woman hasn’t fought her own battle on at least one of those fronts.
- ‘here’ means this BOARD as a whole, at least that’s what the OP was talking about. Search the whole board and get back to us. It’s real, and it’s insidious.
- I was checking the Pit thread and this one at the same time, so my apologies. This thread (and even actually the Pit thread, all things considered) are not currently wretchedly awful to wade through. (I feel like it’s not grabby to ask for a higher general board bar to clear than ‘not awful’ btw) That doesn’t negate the specific point of the inherent problems in that specific vocabulary use, and ALSO, nice try there, don’t think I don’t notice you’re trying to neg my whole post by nitpicking one element.
I absolutely agree with this sentiment and I think that suggestion could be part of an effective change-maker for board culture. And I have a feeling that the worst offenders / boys club members will lose their shit about potentially being ‘censored’ and ‘free speech’ and ‘snowflakes’ and threaten to flounce.
The problem with the free market idea online is that the loudest voices in the most coherent mob tend to set the tone, and counteracting that is difficult and time-consuming and doesn’t agree with idealistic notions of benign neglectful governance and ‘letting it all sort itself out’ - if people worked that way then we wouldn’t HAVE to have laws against racism and sexism, yet time and again some people get it and some people have to be dragged (by rules, moderation, laws) kicking and screaming into a new paradigm where people are actually people.
Moderator Warning
This is an official warning for trolling. Do not do this again in ATMB.
The moderation staff here is composed of volunteers, and while we try our best, we are not on duty 24 hours per day.
Fridays are usually busy for me at work (my real job, the one I get paid for, which takes priority over the SDMB), and yesterday was busier than most.
Moderator Note
You are pushing your limits in this thread. It would be wise for you to dial things back a bit.
I’m not suggesting people can’t be abrasive or blunt–I"m talking about threads like the recent one about whether women are proud of their genitals, or Urbanredneck’s thread about attractive people in the office affect the social dynamic. There’s a potentially interesting discussion in both of those, but the well was poisoned by OPs that had this “boy’s club, oh, boy, women, am I right?” style of discourse.
The OP does no favours to himself in the sense that he very rarely returns to the topics he starts. His posting style lends itself much more to a lighting a bag of dog(?) poo on the porch, ringing the doorbell and running away. I’ve no doubt the mods are aware of his posting style/history. Not sure they can change posting behaviour; only posting privileges.
:smack: Of course the minute I say that…
I guess my hope is that by closing threads and saying “why don’t your repost that in a way that doesn’t sound gross”, we can help some people find the line–to see what we are talking about. We have posters who have learned a ton over the years because we kept pointing things out to them.