Was he supposed to actually be Timothy Leary? Roger said something like “Dr. Leary your product is overrated.” but I didn’t take it that he was saying it TO the host. Just like if you were given some bad peanut butter you might say “George Washington Carver is rolling over in his grave.”
I’m pretty sure Roger’s “Doctor Leary” was just snark. The real doctor was out in California–& was much more charismatic.
I felt like Roger calling him Dr. Leary was him referencing Timothy Leary, not meant to imply that this guy was actually Timothy Leary. (On edit, what Bridget Burke said.)
I agree. I think it’s possible that she was a bit afraid, but we’ve also been shown that this is one of the ways that Megan asserts some control over Don. No reason it can’t be a bit of both.
I think Peggy was deliberately trying to emulate Don in her tantrum. And by the way, I liked her idea for the Heinz ad. (Also by the way, does Heinz still sell baked beans in the US? I don’t remember seeing them under the Heinz brand in the store.)
So do I, but the problem is she has neither Don’s cache to get away with it, nor his authority to basically go for the nuclear option such as that.
I think that that was Bert’s point at the end. Don’s dereliction of duty has forced Peggy to act not only in his stead but as if she were he, but that cannot work because no matter how talented she is she does not have his mystique or power.
She was stunning in this episode, too often on the show she suffers from 60s hair which detracts from her beauty; but January Jones still holds the title (under that fat suit they put her in). Jane is a close second.
Speaking of, I hope we get another Betty episode soon. She’s still my favorite character on the show, and I like seeing her interactions with Sally and Henry.
One thing I really like about this season is that it looks absolutely gorgeous with all the bright colors. It’s really striking how vivid everything is compared with the earlier seasons. It also feels very 60’s with the types of transitions and music they’re using. Not that anyone would mistake it for something shot in the 60’s, obviously, but it’s very evocative.
Yeah, I think this is prolly right.
I don’t think they had made up. The show has made a point of showing her kissing Don every morning after arriving at the office. This time, Don leaned in, but she gave him a smile and went on her way.
How many people are now sharing Peggy’s office- Peggy, Ginsberg, Megan and Stan?
I’m probably dating myself, but did the Heinz beans pitch, the “kids” at the outdoor cookout, make anyone else invoke the campfire scene from “Blazing Saddles?” Or am I just being juvenile?
That must’ve been mashed potatoes dyed orange in that glass. I kept waiting for her to start screaming with a wicked ice cream headache.
Not to mention casually telling a senior partner that she was going to the movies in the middle of her work day.
I always figured she was Jewish based on her last name. I wonder what their wedding was like. I know it was probally a civil ceremony for obvious reasons, but just imagine Roger in a yarmulke standing under a chuppah. ![]()
The only time Megan acted remotely like a child was when she started pilling the orange sherbert into her mouth. That pales in comparsion to all the crap Don pulled.
How do you convey an acid trip from the taker’s perspective on TV without it seeming ridiculous & over the top corny anyway? I think they did the best they could. I liked the subtle touches like that well-dressed women crawling around on all fours.
What does Don want in a women? Availability; he want’s a women who’s always capable of joyfulling dropping everything to fufill whatever sexual, emotional, social, or intellectual need he has on a moment’s notice.
This wasn’t a sex game; Megan was genuinly afraid of Don. Not necessarily in fear for her life, but she was cleary terrified.
Her biggest problem is that she’s a she. Don could’ve given that exact speech and gotten the client to go along with the campaign. And not just because the client respects Don’s judgement (remember client was constantly asking where Don was & if Don signed off on it). Any male could’ve done it and at least not ended up with the client storming off & demanding he be taken off the campaign. The client was never going to take her seriously anyway, but that speech just made her seem like spoiled bitch throwing a tempure tantrum. Whereas for a man he’d just be out fo the line, but passionate. Nice to see Cooper reminding everyone that he’s owns 1/4 of the company & hasn’t completely checked out.
Simple answer. You don’t.
Acid trips are boring for everyone NOT ON AN ACID TRIP.
They seriously could have cut almost all of that out save for the end with them on the floor. Devoted ten minutes to Lane or Pete or Betty or anyone else.
I laughed when Roger’s cigarette shrank to a butt when he inhaled on it, complete with cartoon sound effect.
Well it is a fine line, she is a she and that is a problem and she is not Don which would be a problem for anyone who isn’t Don, so she had two strikes against her. But also think she didn’t really handle like Don would’ve, she was more bullying in talking down to the client, while Don is sneakily condescending. In other words Don has far more experience schmoozing a client so he is more adept at insulting them without them really realizing it. SO a big portion of it is that Peggy wants to be like Don in that regard, but she hasn’t gotten the subtlety of it down.
Having said that, there is the other aspect you mention, she is a woman and they are expected to act a certain (sexist) way. She is regarded as bitchy while a man is assertive. So that also get thrown in the boiler. It’s not a simple black and white scenario, I am not so sure a man could say the same ting and not get thrown off.
Of course the final aspect is that Peggy is NOT an executive and she simply cannot shit all over a client like that. If Don, who is a partner decides to do it, so be it. It’s probably not professional, but it isn’t outside of his job responsibilities. However, Peggy has no such leeway, she is an employee and Heinz is the client. Full Stop. However, the bottom line is Don should have been there, Peggy simply isn’t ready to take the lead with a tough client.
Christopher Robin Davies bringing up Faye reminds me of her judgment of Don at the end of last season - he only likes the beginning of things. That seems to be what’s going on now, when he has to deal with Megan as an actual person and not a Real Doll who’s good with kids.
It’ll be interesting to see whether Don is capable of treating Megan like a real employee, and what that’ll look like. I don’t think he comes close to respecting her in the sense that he does, say, Peggy. I don’t really think Don wants a wife he respects like he does Peggy to begin with. That’s one reason he chose Megan and unceremoniously dumped Faye; the fact that Faye saw Don as an equal was a mark against her from his perspective.
And Megan might find it difficult to be a real employee, without her husband serving as a deus ex machina when she’s not doing a good job, or excusing her from difficult work. I like her, but I don’t think she’s strong enough to put up with everything Peggy did to get where she is.
A question from somebody who’s never used LSD but has always been curious: do things like the musical liquor bottle or the 1919 World Series actually happen? I know it causes hallucinations, but those are just so vivid and dreamlike.
I only remember eating in a Howard Johnson’s one time and the only thing I remember was how bad HoJo cola was. (I always loved the aesthetic of the orange pyramid, though.) Were they known for having an ice cream parlor.
Another way to know that the curandero wasn’t really Timothy Leary: by his own admission he rarely sat one out. He usually tripped along with his subjects/guests, which is one of the many reasons I think he was a total piece of shit as a human being (i.e. you’re not doing research, you’re just tripping with company). The revelation he was a FBI informant was a big “Duh!” moment- the guy was loyal to himself and that was it.
Yeah. I get the impression that they client wouldn’t have agreed to anything presented since Don wasn’t there. Peggy’s speech was out of line, but she was right in her reasoning.
It was a minor part of the episode, but I was a little surprised Don was upset that Megan embarrassed him in front of the Howard Johnson’s waitress. First of all, I’m sure the waitress has seen worse. Secondly, when is Don ever going to see her again? I’m thinking it’s one of two things. One: Don is obsessed with image and worries about what everyone thinks, even Howard Johnson’s waitresses. Two: Don is just upset that Megan wasn’t going along with his plan and happily doing what he said. Or maybe it was a little of both.
By the way, I’m normally not a fan of Megan, but I was really feeling for her this episode. I was scared when Don was chasing her. Now that it’s over, I really don’t think Don would have hurt her. But in that moment? I was scared. Likely Megan felt the same way.