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Don’s challenged by a pitch and Peggy contemplates a trip.
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Only three more episodes left. Last week’s preview stongly suggested Lane’s little scam was discovered so we no that’s not gonna happen tonight.
Tonight’s episode was painful. The whole Joan thing just leaves me reeling. At first, I didn’t get the repetition of the scene with her and Don… and then I did… 
Yeah me too - I can’t believe either she or Peggy did what they did!
Oh, man, for a minute there I thought Peggy was going to lose her courage. Don sure does know how to put the last nail in that coffin, doesn’t he? If she had any doubt… well, not anymore, Mr. Draper! Not anymore!!
What’s up with Joan’s mom. I thought she was all about sacrificing for your husband? Now she wishes Mr. Harris was dead??
I wish Megan would hurry up and get braces already. Sheesh, those teeth!
Jon Hamm is a hell of an actor. It is chilling his depiction of Don Draper, and then ponder his work on 30 Rock. The energy behind the eyes is two totally different things.
As Peggy gave her wistful glance back I said “dear god tell me they fixed the elevator.”
Did I read that piece of paper in the diner correctly? Did Peggy jump ship for the job of copy chief at an anuual salary of $14,000? And I think Joan said that she is paid $12,500 per year.
19,000! She had written 18,000/year and the guy crossed it out and added another 1000 to it.
I think that every time someone goes to that elevator.
Peggy wrote $18,000 on the paper and he countered with $19,000. Remember that in 1966, the median income in the country was $3,000 per year. No kidding. A top executive might make $40K. My first job as a department director at a nonprofit in 1977 was $8,866.
I remember my then-husband and I visited some friends of his parents in the posh Houston area called River Oaks aroung 1972. They had about a 4,000 sq ft home on the lake, 4 or 5 bedrooms, pool table, swimming pool. It was $60K.
Gasoline was 20 cents a gallon. Minimum wage was somewhere around $1.10.
I had a full four-year scholarship to a private Catholic college… The value for the whole 4 years (1966-1970) was $2,800-- that’s $700 per year. That was tuition only; I was a day student.
Hard to believe, but true.
Gut-wrenching episode. I thought it was one of the best of the entire series.
Sick to my stomach about Joan - can’t wait for Lane to get found out - damn, forgot about that elevator, hope that Peggy is okay.
Such a wonderful show, tonight’s episode was pretty damn good.
I missed the part of the episode where the partners voted on Joan’s proposal. Were they all aware of what Joan was being asked to do? I got the impression from Don that they were, and I was waiting for him to punch Pete in the face for even suggesting it. Did Roger go along with it?
Why did Joan do it? She wants 5% that bad? And if the rest of the directors know how she got the 5%, how does that affect their relationships?
What happened with Lane? Did he get his $8,000 somehow?
They have definitely set it up for somebody to fall down that elevator shaft, and I keep expecting it to be any of them. Don least, Lane most likely. But I have a bad feeling about Joan.
Can we please let it be that asswipe Pete?
Yes, they were all aware. Roger was disgusted but felt it was her decision.
As Lane told Joan, a 5% stake in the firm could probably take care of her and her son for a lifetime. For a woman in Joan’s position that’s gotta be tempting. I doubt she really thought through the consequences besides the financial aspect.
Lane might deliberately fall down the elevator shaft, just to resolve his financial concerns.
Would someone explain the intention of the creative staff (the show’s) to have us interpret Don’s visit to Joan’s place two different ways? At first I thought they had just made an error by showing it twice, but my wife explained that we were intended to see it both ways. If that’s true, then what ultimate purpose is served?
Are we supposed to see Don as equally guilty in Joan’s decision? What else?
I just sobbed and puked my way through that episode. In a just world, Joan Holloway would have no need of my tears.
I wish that forty years later the professional world was different in substance instead of just degree, but… hell, I’ve been asked a bunch of times over the course of my career to show the client a good time. No actual sex of course, but the expectation was that I’d (and I suspect any reasonably attractive “secretarial” sort can verify) make him feel special. Fuck, at least she made partner.
Fuck. Still kinda crying. After a couple of dozen years, you become numb to it yourself, but fuck it, she’s better than that. So am I of course (so is pretty much everyone), but holy crap, that was a gut punch.
Oh, and holy crap, Peggy! I can’t even imagine how this is going to shake out.
We were supposed ti experience it first from Don’s point of view and then from Joan’s point of view.
I think I see that part of it, but do we have any special reason to believe Don visited her after rather than before the clients’ meeting? The “Godfather Baptism Scene” nature of the two events was heavy enough, but I wonder if there’s even more that I’m just not getting yet.
The first time we saw the scene, we thought Don was convincing Joan she didn’t have to go through with it–that all the partners (including her long-time lover Roger, her long-time avuncular boss Bert & Lane, who seemed to have feelings for her) might think so, but he didn’t. Of course, all the partners got the word from Slimy Pete that Joan had opened negotiations…
When we saw the scene again, we realized that she’d already done the deed. And she’d thought that Don (who’d been a good friend back at Christmastime) had gone along with the other partners in hoping she’d whore herself out.
So it was too late. But at least she’s got some power now…