Gotta say, Pizza, I am not seeing it. You are super-tunnelling on Inner and there is just not that much there.
I personally have no read on Inner right now. Would love to hear more of his thoughts. Why did you think Lightfoot would be cleared by Chronos’ death?
Also, sinjin’s “quick” acceptance of me was not so quick, she had believed me on Day One. That doesn’t seem suspicious to me.
I do agree that gnarly’s reaction to me has been wonky all-the-live-long. I gather that he always gets squirrelly when voted.
I understand everyone wanted me to spill the deets after I voted Chronos right away. I should have waited a bit. I kind of think that townies might have weighed the possibility that I, as Holmes, had a good reason for waiting… and it seems some did. Others became agitated.
I also think scums wanted me to spill so they could have a clearer idea of what my powers were.
vote gnarlycharlie
I do have a result – not on gnarly. I will not be revealing it at this time.
Okay fine. We’ll leave you be for now, to think about your lousy vote and even worse “die scumbag” moment after the esteemed Moriarty was already caught.
Let’s see if you can come around and make votes that make sense. Otherwise you die.
Let’s put more pressure on gnarles bottomley charles XXIV of Chadwick-upon-Thames with a side of sauerkraut.
He at the very least was super eager to know Daphne’s full results on the guilty scum.
Because if he flipped town he’d have had no reason to lie and claiming the role he did did not offer enough of a ROI to make not lynching him worth it.
They are phrased differently, but they come from the same brain wave.
That and other similar posts were what I was hunting for. Consequently, I like IS’ responses today.
The tone of my posts pressuring him sound ridiculously overinflated because they are.
I’m not too worried about it. It’s not as if it’s bothering him. He likes it. It’s all part of the game.
Anyone who plays this game is liable to be the subject of long-winded and aggressive and wrong accusations. Half the fun is knowing they’re wrong and watching them go off on a tangent and place bets you know they’ll lose, so it’s not a big deal. You’re not the one with egg on your face afterward, they are.
I’ll risk putting egg on my face.
I’ll also risk pressuring someone and turning my opinion around based on their response so quickly it gives people whiplash. That’s what I did with Pleonast, unapologetically.
I know the sudden reversals don’t jibe with how others play. There’s too much to gain in being right and not letting go, and not enough to personally lose if you guess wrong but see it through to the end.
However, if I see stuff that makes me think someone is townie I don’t want to follow through and lynch them. I’d rather look like a flake than continue pressing the wrong button.
You wanted to hear IS’ thoughts, so I’ll abstain.
I don’t think Chronos was the only scum who voted for me. Particularly after it became obvious that I wasn’t going to agree with a damned thing he said, challenged his votes and assumptions, dismissed his voting analysis tool completely out of hand, then called his tu quoque post to be the single top indicator of scum I’ve seen in all the years.
That has to have gotten the attention of someone. I don’t think Chronos went it alone trying to get me.
It’s not all about pizza, as sinjin has stated repeatedly, but that’s the scum GF I’ve been more or less browbeating. You don’t trash almost everything he’s doing and not have his mates notice it. By the end of such a round, there was going to be a couple scum votes on me.
Am I completely confident there are more scum there?
No. It’s an assumption which applies to generic scum, not specifically Sinjin or IS.
I think it’s better than 50 percent likely, but it’s not overwhelming. I do want to examine all my voters one by one, as a starting point. Others can start from a different place and see where they end up.
Meanwhile, I haven’t stopped looking at the others. Gnarly’s reaction to you was one of those which caught my attention.
It’s hard for me to read gnarly. I can’t recall a time that I’ve ever really *gotten *him. If it’s based on this, then it may be a first.
They’re going to look to whatever you say to inform them of their next move.
The slower that information comes, the less they have to work with. Which is why prompting you to fully spill could be the dreaded moment where a scumbag reveals what they’re really thinking, with poor timing at that.
Obv. what I told you yesterday is now moot.
The reveal should come as late into the day as possible. If you can scrape the edge of the round without going over, that virtually guarantees the person in question survives into the next day.
**On preview **
Lightfoot:
With Moriarty dead, my clue makes me half a mason.
It’s a fact, established by the rules, only townies are given false clues.
Scum can *tell *us false clues, but only townies were actually *given *them.
I’m in possession of a clue that says someone else’s clue is false. If they exist in the game at all, then my clue can only be false if theirs is true.
If *my *clue is false, then they possess real data which can be useful to us to know, because it’s real.
But if said person’s clue is false, then they are known to be innocent by rule.
In either case, we learn something true. A known innocent or a known true clue.
We cannot *both *be in possession of false clues. If his clue is false that makes mine true. The odds are quite likely his information is useful, especially since I am probably in possession of a false clue indicating that his information is not true.
If I’m designing the game I put false clues indicating useful clues are false, to make them less useful to the town. It’s an assumption, but the alternative is, he’s got useless but true information, and I’m half a mason.
I can *also *live with that. (But not for long :D)
Just by odds alone, it’s easier to be wrong that someone is scum, than to be wrong that someone is townie. Looking townie is harder to do than accidentally looking scummy.
You’ll get more false positives than false negatives.
Sorry, all, I’ve been sick and am trying to catch up on mafia games. I’ll post and respond as before, but don’t expect me to catch up quickly, since I’m still not recovered.
My first thought was, uh-oh, another false clue from scum, trying to look townie. But on second look, I am inclined to believe this one. Surely if Diggit were scum, he would have posted this clue yesterday rather than today.
You’ll have to help me out as work seems intent on blowing my synapses this week. What about the clue makes you think a scum would have posted it yesterday?
Perhaps it’s my synapses that are misfiring. Diggit’s clue is obviously false Today. Yesterday when we didn’t know that Chronos was a godfather, it might have been true or false. If I were scum, trying to use a fake false clue to look townie, I would have posted it Yesterday when it wasn’t so obvious.
Mahalothposted this earlier, which he claims is from another game.
I can verify it is (because I’m in that game too, right now, and the post fits with that game more than this one).
Only problem is: His post doesn’t appear to go anywhere in the public game threads.
Obviously it looks like he’s answering someone in his post (and telling them about the first Purgatory game), but NOBODY asked anything like that in the purgatory game, nor was there any discussion going on about anything near that.
My conclusion: Mahaloth posted in a game thread what he meant to post in a scum thread…which means he’s either scum in THIS game or THAT one (the one on GB).
I’m leaning more towards it being the one on GB since his post was about that game…however, his role in that game is pretty much 99 percent certain to be Town.
So if he flips Town in that game, I might come back to this one and reform the theory being “Maybe scum Mahaloth was posting in the (storyteller) scum boards, thinking he was making a post in the public Giraffe one…and accidentally made the post in the (storyteller) game.”
(if any of that makes sense AT ALL to anyone else but me)
Yes, I know that’s all metagaming as HELL, but I can’t just ignore a post that was made out of the blue that makes NO sense, at all.
I think he’s either scum in this game or that one (probably that one).
Okay, off of that BS for now:
Vote Astral Rejection
Picking up where I left off yesterday (before we found out about Chronos). Same reasons given as I did yesterday.
And Rysto bringing up the voting timings of Texcat doesn’t help in my suspicions of her either.
Chronos voted Astral making him a leader. That could be a clever scum deflection, but I’m going with Ocdjob’s Razor:
Vote Texcat
Idle’s comment about Mahaloth makes little sense to me. He’s on the AM-2 scum boards, wants to post to Geeb, so posts here instead? :smack:
Moreover, that Chronos the Godfather acted yesterDay despite fear of being Watched/Tracked might suggest that one Scum has hampered his team’s options by claiming Vanilla.
What doesn’t make sense about it?
I said he’s either scum in this game or that one. I’m leaning heavily toward that one, probably.
But one thing can’t be denied: That post (that he made in here) is DEFINITELY about that game and not this one (which you should know, because you were in that game)…so I don’t see why you find my post so odd.
You have tunnelvision, Septimus. Even your second reason is stretching it extremely thin.
Either you’re town who is so desperate to find me as scum or you’re scum who’s looking for extremely weak reasonings to vote for someone. Vote Septimus (yes, this vote is 70 percent OMGUS…with 30 percent “his constant weak reasonings at this point, are becoming more and more suspicious”)
