My point was that if Diggit were scum, he would have known that Chronos was the godfather.
vote: septimus
vote: Idle Thoughts
vote: Mahaloth
vote: gnarlycharlie
vote: Silver Jan
vote: Darth Sensitive
Astral is correct; these are easy, bandwagon votes, and I am certain that there is scum in there.
Idle’s continued insistence that the Dizzy (and Pleo) wagons were scum wagons to save either Astral or me, still makes no sense. Dizzy was lynched because it was Day One and there was a fairly convincing case against her.
If either Astral *or *I were scum, there would have been no reason to start a third (or fourth) wagon on Dizzy and Pleo. That only makes sense if both of us are scum.
Darth’s vote, in particular, stands out as bad. He says he didn’t agree with the case on me on Day One; he’s voting me because Chronos voted for Pleo? That’s almost as bad as voting for something as silly as say, being above Dizzy in the member’s list.
Sure it makes sense.
Here it is again since you both seem to keep missing it:
You two are (at least to me) the BEST VOTES RIGHT NOW, in my opinion. Since of the 4 bandwagons on Day one (you both, Pleo and Dizzy), one was Town (Dizzy) and one I feel is Town (Pleo), because that one also started up out of the blue and went fast.
You both, however, were the top two lynch choices for awhile, until the other two either got close, tied, or overtook you both over the course of Day one, at different times.
So as much as you two keep insisting it’s SO unlogical…it really isn’t. It doesn’t take a huge amount of logic to surmise that there’s a good chance ONE of you MAY be possible scum? Am I sure? No. Not at all. Convinced is far from the word here…which you both seem to be throwing on me. It’s just a reason to vote and–as far as I can see–the only thing more suspicious that I have at this point than on anyone else.
The odds that ONE of the four bandwagons from day one are scum are very, very good…especially if it is a Townsperson that got the noose, because it’s been shown in MANY past games scum will often try to save their team from getting it…so again, not exactly sure where you both are getting the thought that those votes don’t make sense.
I didn’t say they don’t make sense, I said they’re weak. I think the biggest piece of evidence that TexCat is town is that there’s been no vote movement or case making at all in days. It would take much less effort toDay to drive a new lynch to (yet again!) save TexCat, and it would look far more organic. There’s been nothing… people seem content to let TexCat die with six votes, and not bother looking elsewhere. And at least two of those votes don’t seem to sure of themselves.
That should have been “so” sure of themselves, but my phone thought it was more important that it look like I don’t know which “too” to use. 
Also… where is everybody?
I will agree with you in that when a wagon starts at the beginning of the day and trundles inexorably to the end, it’s a sure bet scum are totally ok with it.
(we were out having a party without you.)
Aw, and I love parties!
I don’t know anything about TexCat. However, it seems like you’re pretty sure TexCat is town.
Scum knows exactly who’s town.
I’m positing you’re scum. Vote Astral Rejection
… and TexCat isn’t scum, by your reasoning? I clearly and willfully stuck my neck out for a town player whose lynch is almost assured? God, I’m such an awful scum.
Anybody else wondering why Mahaloth isn’t volunteering to be lynched Today?
Answer me this: do you fundamentally disagree with my general point, that TexCat’s lynch looks crazy weak? Ignore whatever you think about me, and pretend some neutral third party wrote my post. What do you specifically disagree with?
The case against Gnarly seems very weak. The first vote he got was from TexCat, who thought revealing that “ties [might be] decided by random.org” was anti-Town. I don’t get that. He got more votes when his clue was duplicated, and more votes when he forgot the game’s Nightlessness. (Why would that be a scum tell, unless it’s considered to be sham?)
One point to consider, when more information develops, is that, due to his mathematical approach, Chronos most probably voted for one (perhaps two) Scum. I see him voting for Pleonast, Astral, Pizza, Mahaloth, Klutz; I’ll guess that one of these is Scum. Among those five, the vote on Astral risked Lynching him. Pleo and Pizza are the other votes Chronos emphasized. I get a Town sense from Pizza, but will reconsider if someone posts a good case summary.
unvote all
Vote Mahaloth
If he still thinks I’m scum at this point, he can be excused from the game.
I put pressure on gnarly and that didn’t do much. Let’s try Maha.
Who wants a dead Mahaloth today?
I am townie and am willing to be scanned tonight to prove it. I also don’t trust the TexCat wagon.
Let’s kill someone the scums don’t want dead.
I see that kind of behavior often from scums. It’s called White Knighting someone.
I remember a case of that so bad it kind of forced my hand. A guy was defending more people left alive in the game than there could possibly be townies remaining, leading to the forced conclusion that he considered himself scum.
He had a perfect game up until then, and had me fairly fooled. Once he did that I voted him and tried to get him dead with all due desperation.
If there are 2 scums left, and 7 players left, and you defend 4 people and then don’t vote for me, then you’re obviously not hunting scum, but trying to look good by defending people who are townie.
If someone has fooled me into thinking they are townie, it’s probably Astral.
So now I’m going to vote for him too. Sorry buddy.
Vote: Astral Rejection
Speaking of which, I am guilty of White Knighting TexCat.
TexCat should probably vote for me for doing that.
Situation: Scumbag getting votes from people. You’re a godfather, and probably immune to most kinds of scan. You want to get townie credits for the endgame.
Do you:
A) Vote to lynch a fellow scum
B) Do nothing when the perfect opportunity to earn townie credits happens
C) Defend your guilty teammate
Astral is either townie or scum, but guilty people, especially Godfathers, are likely to vote for their fellow scum. Chronos wanting Astral dead means little.
I’m way too talkative and I make no sense. I’m also a bad, evil man.
Just once, I’d like someone to comment on the content of my posts. Lynch me, whatever, but am I objectively wrong about Idle, gnarly, TexCat, anything I’ve said?
Actually, it’s pretty common for scum to stick out their necks “defending” someone who is town. If they are successful, they’ve got someone who feels they are “on their side”. If they aren’t, they can pat themselves on the back later on and tell everyone “I told you so!”
I specifically disagree with anyone who defends anyone else. It shows knowledge that the average townie simply cannot have. There’s also the point that you’re attacking a whole gaggle of people on supposedly spurious reasoning. Scum can coordinate, so they would (I imagine) build better arguments, not weaker ones.
Um, Pizza, why you so eager to be scanned now? Didn’t you “conclude” that you shouldn’t be scanned yesterDay?
I really don’t like the lynch of Texcat.
I will vote some people now. I’d rather lynch them than Texcat.
vote septimus
vote Darth Sensitive
vote wevets
DS and wevets are playing very ‘clean’, staying out of controversial positions and keeping out of ‘lurking’ without saying much. And septimus has been scummy since day one in a vague way. It may just be me not getting his tone/playstyle. His apparent misunderstanding of my case on gnarly is a minor point but it bugs me.