Mafia: Conspiracy 2: The Cabal Strikes Back! [Game Over]

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[QUOTE=brewha]
And yes, I believe Mhaye comment was a smudge - not healthy skepticsim. Claiming that I’m on borrowed time or that I’ve bought myself a couple of days is the same as saying that I’ll be proved wrong. Not that it matters. I have the most easily verifiable claim. I don’t see why anyone would even question that.
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I don’t question that you have an easily verifiable claim. I expect that before Dusk Tomorrow you’ll reveal the side of ToDay’s lynchee, and before Dawn of Day3, the sides of ToNight’s nightkill(s). Before Dusk of Day 3, providing you’ve correct so far, I’d expect you to reveal the role of ToDay’s lynchee. Get one wrong, of course, and you’ll be next on the gallows.

I don’t trust you. I think you’ll be swinging on Day 3 at the latest. You’ve not yet commented on the other people with high vote counts. Your reaction to having a whopping 4/31 votes was to claim. You could’ve responded to the people who voted for you, or built a case against someone else, but you just claimed.

I find the risk more unplatable though. So:
unvote brewha

This, to my count, puts Darth Sensitive in the lead, with brewha, Nanook, pedescribe, Oredigger77, Pollux Oil, Santo Rugger, and NaturalBlondChap tied for second.

Crap. I’m not happy with lynch the lurker, and less happy with no lynch (in the chance of a tie). Quickly rereading.

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[QUOTE=Redwing]
I don’t question that you have an easily verifiable claim. I expect that before Dusk Tomorrow you’ll reveal the side of ToDay’s lynchee, and before Dawn of Day3, the sides of ToNight’s nightkill(s). Before Dusk of Day 3, providing you’ve correct so far, I’d expect you to reveal the role of ToDay’s lynchee. Get one wrong, of course, and you’ll be next on the gallows.

I don’t trust you. I think you’ll be swinging on Day 3 at the latest. You’ve not yet commented on the other people with high vote counts. Your reaction to having a whopping 4/31 votes was to claim. You could’ve responded to the people who voted for you, or built a case against someone else, but you just claimed.

I find the risk more unplatable though. <snip>
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Shit, Redwing, he’s claimed arguably one of the most easily verifiable roles, and if he’s wrong, he’ll swing, just like you say. Why the continued smudges?

883

Yeah, a whopping 4 votes which put me in the lead on the last day of the Day. Let’s keep things in perspective here, alright? Claiming when I did, I still was tied for the lead with less than an hour to go. And you think I should have waited to claim?

Truth of the matter is, the coroner is only really useful after he’s claimed. I had planned on claiming sooner than later - but just not this soon. Because of this - like I’ve already said - claiming early was not a big deal.

884

Well, I have wandered back over the Day again.

My main gut instinct points at Santo Rugger, **Zsofia ** and Oredigger77.

**Santo Rugger ** - mainly for being far more defensive of other players than I have seen and being far more informative than I am use to seeing

**ZSofia ** - just because there is something about her playstyle

**Oredigger77 ** - Over the lynch lurkers, general play and a few points that have been mentioned.

Really not much to go on at all.

**pedescribe ** has answered my questions as asked. I still find him scummy but my concerns have been allayed for the moment.

so given everything, I think **Oredigger77 ** is on balance, the scummiest.

unvote pedescribe

vote Oredigger77

885

Grief. Things do change when your trying to read the entire thread :eek:

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[QUOTE=brewha]
Cookies even admitted that she was only voting for me so that my attempt to fly under the radar would be noticed.
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Hmmm…gonna have to call bullshit on this, and I’m wondering if I should just put my vote back on you.

There is no ‘admission’ in my reasoning for voting for you, and the decidedly negative spin you try to put on my reasoning with that word bothers me greatly. You on the other hand, have admitted to trying to avoid scrutiny.

[QUOTE=ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]
Vote brewha.

He’s had 13 posts so far in the game, only 4 toDay (and one of those was devoted solely to Austin Powers) and his vote is currently for No Lynch.

There are other low post-count players in a very similar situation who’s few contributions so far have largely been voting to save themselves from Pleo’s Basement of DOOM!!! ™
Some of them have voted for themselves, which I think is a very dumb idea, but I think those votes are going to stick out for what they are in the future vote analysis. brewha’s vote, however, I suspect was made in the manner that it was in hopes that it would not receive as much scrutiny if looked at later in the game.

My vote, on the other hand, is being made because a) I think the aforementioned behavior is very shifty and b) by voting for him toDay, I can perhaps draw some scrutiny towards him that I believe he is trying to avoid.

No matter how I tried, I just could not get comfortable with the Radio Flier that Cat is being tugged around on, so when sifting through the potential one-offs and low-participation prods, I found a solid vote that serves a constructive purpose.
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You seem to be trying to wave away the scummy motivations for avoiding scrutiny. You also took issue with me calling you out for participation level, after compiling a similar report card on my posts. I’m willing to let bygones by bygones in that area, and leave that up to the court of public opinion.

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[QUOTE=CatInASuit]
**Santo Rugger ** - mainly for being far more defensive of other players than I have seen and being far more informative than I am use to seeing
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I just wanted to point out that I’m not defending players in particular, I’m pointing out flaws in arguments against them that I see.
And thanks for the second part, I think. :wink:

888

Well, Darth now has 4 votes including his own. Oredigger has 3. If Darth comes in to unvote himself, we’ll have a tie.

Gah! I always get stressed at deadline time…

889

I’m around and I’m following the thread. I’m not going to be doing any hardcore analysis, but I will not allow a tie in any case.

890

Me either.
With delayed info, it’d be so anti town that… well, it’d be really anti town.

891

I’m not sure who I’d pick out of those two. I’m trying to read Oredigger’s posts; he raised my hackles at least once (his reaction to Pollux Oil’s anti-mass-claim stance).

I thought I saw something else, but was unable to trace it this afternoon.

892

I really hope not, I am so looking forward to the last second roleclaims.

Of course, everything has to be done within the next 10-15 minutes anyway by the SDMB clock.

893

EBWOP: I am so NOT looking forward to the last second roleclaims

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[QUOTE=brewha]
Yeah, a whopping 4 votes which put me in the lead on the last day of the Day. Let’s keep things in perspective here, alright? Claiming when I did, I still was tied for the lead with less than an hour to go. And you think I should have waited to claim?

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No, I think you should have sought out a better place to put your vote. Self-preservation is a null-tell, but you certainly could’ve moved your vote, or built a case against Zsofia beyond the omgus that you started with. I have removed my vote from you due to your claim. Don’t ask that I be happy about it as well.

I don’t like how close we are to a tie currently. I don’t have a solid case against either of the high vote holders, but the self-vote thing bugs me. I don’t like voting purely on being bugged, but:
vote Darth Sensitive

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ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies, Yes, I_have_admitted to trying to avoid scrutiny. Because that is exactly what I was trying to do. I was trying to go unnoticed until just before Pleonast revealed the role of the first killed. Then I was going to chime in and say, “Pleo is about to reveal that so-and-so is a so-and-so”. Then when he did, I would gain the trust of the town and be able to reveal the rest of the knowledge I had obtained without the skeptiscm.

OK, I may have paraphrased. But I was in no way trying to put a negative spin on your vote. I’ve said it - probably three times - that I understood why you voted the way you did. It was the people that were trying to get a bandwagon going on me with your reasoning that raised suspicions with me.

This is the part I remember:

And that is what I was agreeing with. I’m really not seeing what it was about my posts that have pissed you off so much.

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4 Mins…

F5…

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:wink:

897

OK we should not have a tie at all
I have been questioning orediggers lynch the lurker poll and never felt happy with his response.

unvote santorugger
vote oredigger

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brewha: I’m not pissed, I just took issue with your choice of words. It is not really a big deal in light of the current firedrill.

Neither Darth nor Oredigger have been in my awareness much at all, aside from noting Darth’s vote for himself. I don’t have enough data to make anything like an informed decision, so I hope the rest of you choose well.

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I think we need to avoid the tie more than anything. So, just in case.

Vote Darth Sensitive

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Darth Sensitive (6)
Oredigger77 (4)