That’s not really the question that interests me. I don’t think we need to rush right into “it’s a zombie, kill it with rocks!” - there is far too much still unrevealed to be certain about that - but if you (or anyone) disagrees I’m not exactly adamant about it.
What interests me is Visorslash’s thought process: why this disagreement on tactics with ToeJam seems to Visor to suggest that ToeJam is worthy of a vote.
Meanwhile.
It’s going to take me forever to catch up, so I’m faced with a choice between being nonparticipatory even longer or simply contributing with not-yet-complete understanding of everything that’s happened.
So, fubbleskag. Originally he wanted cash in exchange for item inspection, now he’s offering to barter for services. Perhaps this goes without saying, but this absolutely implies that he is non-Town, correct? Might be Scum, might be third party, might be anything, but is (to my view) 100% certainly non-Town. A Town player interested in advancing a Town win condition would be unlikely to require specific conditions in exchange for doing a thing that will help the Town (ie, provide additional information).
I almost voted him for it myself, though it was on top of a few other things. If I’d been having the same thoughts at any time other than 2:30 in the morning I probably would have. But it’s entirely possible my reasons are not the same as Visor’s, so I guess we’ll see what he says.
About fubs, that’s what everyone seems to think. Fuck if I know, personally. I might have issues with him at the moment. Waiting.
fubbleskag, are you non-Town?
You can tell us; we’re not judgmental.
I have the standard Town win condition just like the rest(?) of you. I’m not going to apologize for wanting to explore the open aspects of this game for my own enjoyment as I stated early on.
"Not too bright either. HARR HARR HARR!!!"
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I’m not going to vote choie.
Think I will go with
vote MHaye for now.
I have been thinking about the mechanics a little bit. If Scum have all the powers the demon seems to have, Town is doomed. He can triple vote, brink back lynched players, and can kill 2 people per night. Something doesn’t add up and I don’t understand what’s going on. For that reason, I am not going to kill Mosier just because the demon brought him back. I would like to wait and see what he does. I had a bit of a Town lean on him before, and his write-up said ‘Good’. It’s not worth much but it’s worth a day or two.
I don’t know what to say about fubbleskag. I’ve already upset choie, so that’s probably enough for one Day.
I’m sorry if I attacked you, choie. I didn’t mean for it to come across that way, but I didn’t write it very well.
i still can’t shake the feeling that based on color and powers, there’s only one scum. blue points to town. indigo and teal are neutral and red scum. scum gets a multitude of powers like triple votes and zombie creation. i think like his game in another board, we’ll see a ton of townie and neutral deaths before we’re done.
I’m sure, but please don’t get too hung up on either “blue” or “good”. We have four categories of alignment. All of them have colors attached, and game alignment has never been unambiguously revealed for a dead player.
I’d guess we can trust that the people who died by means of Lord Phere were not scum at the time of their deaths. That’s all.
Cool.
Any particular reason for that vote, other than “He’s not choie”?
I’m sure you probably gave one at some point, but with almost 2000 posts to go through, it might help if you gave a quick summation of your case, updated to include any new pertinent info.
Story, I read somewhere recently, and it is my opinion, that scum use that tactic. (The delaying tactic, etc)
The way he worded it, I don’t particularly like. Zombies are not good, they can die. They’re zombies, by default they’re evil.
*In general knowledge anyway, but considering we’re all alive…
*It’s the whole, wait and see approach which reeks of scum to me.
And???
I don’t recall seeing a rule against editing in this game, so what’s the problem?
If you think that editing posts is a Scum tell, then vote for him. If you don’t think that editing posts is a Scum tell, then there’s no reason for you to bring it up.
Whilst I get that we have multi-dimensional alignment factors - there’s still this for me - I find it hard to believe that a good person would be a threat to the town.
That said, the Phere-raised zombie bothers me. It bothers me for this possible reason: Phere sacrifices a night kill to raise a zombie - why? How about the zombie can add a night to his kill-stable every night thereafter. Shall we wait for him to add another? Or take three kills tonight?
I say we deal with this unnatural beast now.
vote Mosier
Hm it occurs to me that whilst I do find it hard to believe a good person would be a threat to the town (other than being a formerly good zombie), all we know about those who died is that they looked like they were good. Or were dressed like a good solider… so that belief is totally undermined in practice 
i’m not sure your vote counts since it’s not in bold.
anyway, is a vote for a zombie legal? if yes, can they actually be lynched?
I think that a “Good” person is that and just that; he is for the side of “good” and against the side of “Evil”. That means he’s not on Lord Phere’s side (as the Demon Lord is unquestionably “Evil”), but it doesn’t imply that he is on the Town’s side.
If we assume that there are multiple factions involved in the game (which is implied by the color, but is by no means certain), then each faction could be ‘out for themselves’, with the common goal of defeating Lord Phere.
The more I think about it, I think the ‘Traitor’, who appears to be aligned with LP, is not ‘Scum’ as we normally think about it in a Mafia sense, but rather more like a PFK. That is, a single player who if he wins, everybody else loses. And ‘Everybody else’ is probably: a large ‘Town’ faction, and several smaller ‘non-Town’ factions whose Win Conditions may or may not be compatible with the Town’s.
There’s nothing in my PM that indicates that ‘Town’ must be the sole survivors in order to win the game, only that we must eliminate all of the ‘Bad Guys’.
As for Zombie Mosier, I don’t think there’s any need to use up a lynch on him at this point. I wouldn’t put is past LP to have raised him just to mess with us, and to deflect attention from the ‘real’ threat. Until we have more to go on, I have no problem keeping him around. He amuses me.
I’m baffled why we’d want to lynch somebody we already lynched before. What additional info do you expect to come from such a lynch? Build a real case on someone so the vote record can show suspicions and shed more light on the game.
If you really want Mosier dead again, we should use our attacks for that.