Quite.
And???
I don’t recall seeing a rule against being against editing in this game, so what’s the problem?
If you think that being against editing is a Scum tell, then vote for me. If you don’t think that being against editing is a Scum tell, then there’s no reason for you to bring it up.
you and your common sense can just go to hell! 
Amusing. We’re cool, fubs.
I don’t recall seeing this addressed?
I checked This is the sum total of ** Visorslash’s ** posts.
I don’t see a bunch of substance, and the avoidance of a simple question is suspect to me.
So we see that you are a double voter, and have some kind of Day protection.
nice package
Weedy, that’s okay. Just because I felt attacked doesn’t mean you were actually attacking me. My feelings are all over the place really, so it had nothing to do with you.
Pre-warning to Visorslash: there are many screennames mentioned below, which means a lot of bolding. You may want to avert your gaze. 
Wait, I’m confused. (I should just have that on a macro.) Why do you think Phere sacrificed a night kill? Guiri was killed by Phere last Night. Have I missed a rule where we know Phere has two kills every Night?
Anyway… if y’all start suspecting fubbles because he’s not Town… I’ll–I’ll–well, I’m not sure what I’ll do, but it’ll be annoyingly smug. Heh. I’m not against attacking him, obviously, I’ve never trusted him fully, but most people said earlier that killing third party folks isn’t the best strategy rather than seeing out-and-out Scum.
So to that end, I’m thinking back to that long ago Day (well, it seems long in out-of-game time) when we had a horse race between Astral Rejection and Gadarene. That was the day when everyone was voting AR but to our surprise Mosier got the lynch.
The next Night/Day I think we were arguing about whether Mosier was killed to spare Astral or Gadarene. That’s basically one of the reasons Astral seemed suspicious. Well, he was lynched and it appears, at least on the surface if we’re assuming Good sorta leans Town at least, that he was likely Town, or at least Not Scum. Which (I think) indicates that the Mosier lynch wasn’t intended to benefit Astral. So… my suspicions are turning to Gadarene, who’s been unusually silent this round. I’ve said he felt Townish to me, but there’s that Mosier lynch, and his near-hysteria the following Day, and now his sudden lack of activity, and for me that feels wrong, and not like Gadarene at all. It’s like he wants to stay out of sight lest we remember that Astral wasn’t the only beneficiary of that Mosier lynch. (NOTE: If I’ve forgotten a post where he said he wouldn’t be active due to some real life stuff, this is null and void.)
After Astral flipped… well, possibly town, I guess we still don’t know for sure, which sucks, but I think the fact that Phere didn’t raise him does indicate a Town (or at least a non-alliance with Phere) role, I did say I’d go after Normal, whose behavior the Day Astral was killed was all over the map and remains odd to me, though her explanations are persuasive.
I guess I just want that first Day lynch, seemingly ripped out of our hands, to make sense, dammit.
So I’ll just FOS Normal and vote Gadarene for now. (The lighter blue color is to indicate my tentativeness, because he did seem Townish, but as I said… I wanna know what happened that first Day!)
(I also really really want to hear from the lurkers. It seems crazy and hella anti-Town to be so silent this far in the game. People like Lilflower make me very nervous.)
I think Gnarly could be on the right track with there not being many scum, that’s perhaps why I am having a problem with my vote toDay. I wouldn’t think that all the people that Town have lynched would come back as scum though, that would be too easy to figure out, there has to be a twist somewhere.
Choie, I thought Gaderene was the lynch leader on D1 and Astral was second.
Normal’s day protection makes sense to me. If you remember from my full claim, I have an item that blocks 25 hit points of damage. Normal having a similar item that blocks at least 50 HP damage does not seem hard to believe. I think I remember her saying she has such an item.
The armor is likely unrelated to her class, is what I’m saying. Not really a package deal.
I have too many suspects, not too few.
NAF – very careful to stay away from being auto-killed thus far, but hasn’t said a thing. there’s busy and then there’s “Here I am! There I go.”
Red Skeezix – same thing more or less, two quick votes on day two and otherwise not to be found.
Storyteller, turning up again on the same day he would have been autokilled. Gets a pass as long as he keeps talking.
Not actually lilflower at the moment, unless she reappears before Pizza kills her (which should be tomorrow I think).
Realitytrip and PetW, both of whom have disappeared off the face of the earth since getting some public suspicion.
MHaye, carry-over from day one and wasn’t a huge fan of his casual agreement with choie on my PetW unvote either.
I probably shouldn’t even get started on the people I’m just paranoid about. But I don’t like Weedy’s case on choie much. Astral’s got me all worried about Silver Jan all of a sudden, who I’ve been more or less accepting as town since she failed to get freaked out by a challenge on day one. And of course Astral himself. And Believerer, who I think could sell me the Brooklyn Bridge.
Am I forgetting anyone?
That wink is too tiny for my intended comic reply. Oh well.
Normal, your reads seem honest to me, and I’m on board with your suspicions. Keep this up, and I’ll downgrade my suspicions of you to “thermonuclear.”
Haha. Salute, Astral.
No apology requested or expected, at least not from me; it’s a game, and whatever’s fun for you is fine by me in an out of game sense.
But in an in game sense, we have a problem. Because I also intend to play the game in a way that’s fun for me, and that means trying to identify the Bad Guys. Now, I’ll stipulate that it’s possible that you’re Town and just “exploring the open aspects of this game.” But your exploration, currently, involves doing something that is not consistent with a Town win condition. From my perspective, the case where you’re actually Town but behaving as if you’re not is not distinguishable from the case where you’re not Town. On the whole, this makes me want to hit you with a handy piece of spiked metal or a fireball or a Fezzik-style rock until you’re not in the game anymore.
On top of that, what you’re offering - trading information about items for unspecified services rendered, presumably on an individual basis and in private - is a crappy deal for Town as a whole. As far as I can tell, you don’t have the leverage to offer such a bad deal. Exactly how to handle this, I’m not sure yet, but I’d suggest that if you plan to play negotiator, you should be prepared to actually negotiate. If that’s not an option for you at all… well, then we have a really big problem.
Well… OK… normally I’d agree. Except - what information did we actually get from the first time? Normally it’s pretty straightforward: “Bob and Suzie voted for Steve, Steve died and was Town, what do we make of this?” But we don’t even know the alignments of the returned players.
Actually, on some level, and given this, I would think that any player who voted to lynch someone and then didn’t vote to lynch them again upon their return from the dead, with no additional information since the first time, ought to have a damn good explanation for it. If (s)he was Scummy enough to vote for previously, and now is back and nothing has changed, why is (s)he no longer worth a vote?
That’s a crutch.
“I voted for Mosier before. Now he’s alive again, but I still want him dead.”
What can you now surmise from the player? It’s a meaningless, informationless vote. It requires no additional case making. And further, early lynches are overwhelmingly likely to be town players, so Mosier is likely town.
It’s like repeating a day, when there are other tools available to us to deal with Mosier if we so choose.
I can understand your position on everything you said, but I don’t understand the last bit about negotiating - can you clarify?
You may have missed Mosier’s means of death, which came directly from the head baddy himself. That does suggest VERY strongly, IMO, that he was not scum at the time of his death.
I think this might be putting a lot more stock in what is, in the end, color, than I’m comfortable doing at this point.
Then where do you think the triple votes come from? They’re clearly not town.
With no strong Scum candidates among active players, but several inactive players (en route to Mod-kill?) and semi-lurkers (trying to sail between Scylla and Charybdis?), that latter group seems the place to Lynch:
Unvote; Vote: RealityTrip
Why give a present to someone you “don’t trust”?