That sounds great and all, but how the heck do you propose we do that? As others have pointed out, we haven’t even lynched a scum, let alone many scums, that would necessitate that entire tact.
at this point it matters not to Town. It does matter to Wolves/Mafia and you seem to be approaching it from that angle with your current line of reasoning.
and how in the Sam Hill do you propose we discern a Wolf from a Mafia at this point? Hell we keep lynching Town.
What struck me was this statement about the odds being better not to flip the doc switch on N3. This makes no sense to me whatsoever, neither as scum nor town - since 3/4 of the players were still alive. If he, as town, thought the other holder was scum, there was a 15% chance they were dead. If he, as scum, thought the other holder was town, there was a 30-35% chance. So even if he honestly thought there was some sort of chance the other switch holder was dead, the probability that they were alive was much, much greater. So I can see at least four possibilities: he’s terrible at math, he really didn’t think it through so much and took a chance, he somehow knows the other switch holder is dead, or he’s inventing some or all of this. Which is it?
Is it a shitty case because you don’t understand it?
or do you not undersatnd it because you think it is a shitty case?:rolleyes:
IF you happen to note one player calling out another is it not best to wait a minute to see how said player explains it- rather than tossing multi ball ideas for an excuse?
after, yes but before the response?
If ** Biotop ** returns and says " yes, that is exactly what I was thinking"-- will you then give them a pass on the subject?
It’s the flippity bits that get me. If a Town player with a Doc switch assumed the Scum player with the mated switch was going t flip it as a matter of course, then stick with that and reset the Doc every phase. Otherwise it is a weird crap shoot that I do not understand.
Several players have already stated things along the lines of, " think player X is scum, but I agree it’s unlikely they are mafia/wolf". As the game continues more people will these types of things and more scum will vote for the opposing faction. It will be easier to see someone as scum of a specific faction and not general scum.
Neither of you addressed the entire basis of my argument, right now, LYLO is based on Mafia numbers, not wolves.
So, do you disagree with that? If so, how do you see the current state of the game? It seems to me that you aren’t concerned with lylo.
You entire stance comes from an assumption that it is better for him to flip the switch. It doesn’t address the inherent wifom of what the other switch holder would do.
A: we are no where near LyLo
B: if Town does not eliminate them all (Scum) it won’t matter.
as to your first point. yes, that is true. but I don’t see why Town needs to worry about it at this time. It will happen and we will use it if we can as we go.
“Not concerned with LYLO”? Little smudgy there, bro. Yes, I will state for the record that I would prefer to lynch in a way that does not result in us losing. But at the moment, I see absolutely no way to guarantee that we are lynching one faction over another. I would happily settle for us lynching a scum of any stripe. What I don’t understand is why you’re so insistent on a strategy that cannot possibly be implemented right now. It reminds me of John Madden saying things like “the team that gets the most points wins”. Well of course they do, but you can’t just walk out there and say “okey dokey boys, our strategy here will be–score the most points. Oh, by the way, try not to let the other guys score.”
I agree with A and B, but I don’t think we need to wait until we are close to lylo to start looking at what faction we think suspected scum fall under. If I am ready to lynch two players, I’m gonna give my vote to the one I think is on the leading faction.
Why can’t it be implemented now? What are we going to have then that we don’t have now except less players? The ability to reflect on the vote record from now? What better time to take note of these possibilities than now?
So far what I’ve heard from you is that my idea doesn’t make sense and can’t be implemented right now. And there is a vocal feeling that town isn’t doing so well with what we’ve been doing. I think the game has shifted and I think our play needs to shift too. How? By paying special attention to how players change after two wolf deaths.
to the lynch
I still think **Pleo ** is Mafia and the PISsing match with **ToeJam ** was PIS/PIS
ToDay. I am fine with the current lynch leaders- although an easy lynch is usually a miss. IMO
I am waiting to see what ** Prof.P ** has to say re: my recent posts. but that is where my vote wants to be
ahh hell vote Prof.P for the time being.
for multiple reasons that I and others have stated.
You said yourself
"Several players have already stated things along the lines of, " think player X is scum, but I agree it’s unlikely they are mafia/wolf". As the game continues more people will these types of things and more scum will vote for the opposing faction. It will be easier to see someone as scum of a specific faction and not general scum."
Does that not imply that down the road this may be helpful?
Not hunting mafia? Is this your idea of hunting mafia? Dropping in and casting a vote for posting too much about strategy? I’m taking stances, I’m engaging others in conversation and gauging their reaction and viewpoint, I’m adressing things I think are flawed logic, I’ve posted wows, i’ve been very vocal in my suspicions… How am I not scum hunting?
If your reason for voting for me is that you think my lack of scum hunting makes me scummy, then how does Meeko’s “Meh” and vote on Boozy sit with you? Is that the scum hunting I should be doing? Your vote is on me, so you must think he’s doing more scumhunting than I am right?
No one in this game has given you more material to assess their character by than I have. To fly by vote me for not scum hunting is just plain lazy, insulting, and inaccurate.
You’re not voting, are you? You sent ProfP on a wild goose chase and never did anything with his results. Yeah, you’ve talked a lot, but I haven’t seen many opinions today on who you think is scum.
I can’t really disagree with you here Tex, but you did just show up with a shot out of left field. It is late in the Day
Do you have any more meat to put in your sandwich?
In the other **Mahaloth ** game I played with switches they were not held by the same faction. I suspected Scum had the other switch and might flip it or not. How would they know what I was going to do? If Town held the other switch, which seemed unlikely, they still might flip it because how would they know any better than me. Ultimately I just flipped it because if someone has a switch it seemed they would flip it because they could. In other words, really just a random guess.
The second Night it was the same. But on the third Night after a couple of Scum deaths it seemed like maybe they could have held the matching switch. Or possibly a dead Townie had it, again unlikely but not impossible.
So if the other switch holder was dead, I should never throw the switch. If the other switch holder was alive, it was still 50/50. So the odds seemed to me to be better not to throw the switch.
Someone accused me above of being bad at math. Rubbish. Vote for me if you want, but please don’t insult my grasp of elementary probability.
If anyone has any more questions about this, I will try to be on later after work.