I’m not addressing that because it’s an obvious and inherent part of the game. It’s like we’re talking about baseball and you chide me for failing to bring up that 3 strikes is an out. Obviously the only people who know for a fact his alignment are himself, the mods, spoilered observers, and any potential scum mates/mason buddies he may or may not have. Again, this doesn’t need to be stated every single time.
Further, I disagree strongly that if you were scum you’d rather he was modkilled rather than lynched. A modkill means we stop talking about him, and we start focusing on other things, with whatever information comes from his flip. This is bad for scum. However, if he derails conversation and then gets lynched, well too bad he’s dead, but hey at least the Day got wasted!
I do not recall ever playing a game with you, so no I don’t have any idea how you are as scum. But yes, I can very easily see you, Prof P and Idle as scummates. I’m reasonably sure at this point that Idle’s antics are to protect Prof P, and you being a part of that isn’t out of the question either.
It’s water under the bridge now, but why was a quick drive-by vote fine yesterDay but toDay you owe him some justification?Nesta - lots of neutral, helpful or fluffy posts.
D1#114 Hi, monkgate, pros & cons of countering a false claiming scum
D1#116 Hi Roosh!
D1#122 Links to external player spreadsheet
D1#140 Re: ToeJam’s response to Pleo’s comments on scum coordination
D1#1187 Caught up, votes-unvotes Pleo - something feels off, then votes Lakai as the best lynch
D1#1188 Fluff re:cheese
D2#343 Against Batman switch plan, FOS Chronos, discusses toggle
D2#346 More switch talk, toggle or series, wants to help brewha decide
D2#347 Vig is compulsory
D2#401 More switch talk, suspects brewha is town, hopes didn’t ruin plan
D2#414 Fluff re:ads
D2#439 Fluff re:ads
D2#473 Big post re: Chonos, finds his plan suspicious, not enough for avote
D2#477 NETA
D2#1039 Not caught up, votes Toejam, since he won’t be modkilled?
D3#80 Comments on Sario, suspects used up protections
D3#103 Explains reason for vote, ToeJam was viable candidate and had best chance of being lynched, found him scummy D1 (fake derpclear?), not willing to vote again without justification!@Cookies, what’s up? Need to be yanked out again?
I know you’ve explained the know bit, but if she’s lying, is she lying scum or lying 3rd party?
Planning strategies for the next game already?
I don’t get it. He suspected you were scum avoiding the scum boards but still are signalling that you were on their team. You are suggesting that scum would know that you are on their team from the scum boards, even if you never posted, and Thing Fish is displaying PIS by thinking scum wouldn’t necessarily know and only a scumbag would know for sure whether or not the boards contained the list of all members of the scum team, is that the case? Does it not apply both ways?
Does Hal have a history of giving up when given a scum role?
By definition that would be you. From memory, MHaye is a low volume poster who tends to arrive close to EoD and place a well reasoned, often one-off, vote.
Um, there won’t be a ‘vote record’ on Idle Thoughts, at least not one that will have any meaning. His Lynch is utterly artificial and borne out because he’s ducking the mod-kill. Both are equally ‘mechanical’. It just that one bogs down and grinds the game to a halt and the other doesn’t.
As much as you want to keep trying to paint it as being truth, sachertortre, there is really no reason for me to BE modkilled…other than the fact that I requested it earlier. I have, since, changed my mind, however.
I don’t know where you’re getting this. I honestly can’t remember a time when I was scum and just, didn’t post/went inactive.
I also don’t remember a time I subbed out due to being scum…although I know I have both subbed out and been massively inactive a few times when being Town.
This being one of those times (for reference in future games)
Guiri, I think I did say above that I respected the meta argument on Idle, though I based that on testimony from others rather than personal experience. But now that Angel has said that she’s seen him act like this as Town, I’m much less enthusiastic.
What’s your motive in continuing to make an issue of this? It’s been settled, he’s not being modkilled. I was explaining my position but I don’t see any further point in discussing this. You want to say I’m wrong? Fine, I’m wrong.
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Jeez, I go to tokyo for a few days and a shed load of posts to catch up on. Commenting as I go
I disagree with the whole of this post from ender. At this point in time it makes no difference whether lutha are hostile or not, or whether we know their win con or not - at this time they cannot win - if they could win just now then the whole game is broken. At some point later in the game we do need to establish their position, but at present, going after 3rd parties rather than scum is anti-town. Indeed, if the scum happen to off a cultist, then the matter may get cleared up for us without potentially wasting a lynch - and of course, batman could also clear this up - the fact that he didn’t may suggest a cultist is holding the batman switch.
Seriously? on day 3? you’re going to do more than your usual lynch the lost post count monologue?
So taking the game seriously is just sticking with your lynch the low post count. Your contribution to the game as largely been requoting stuff or fluff or both.
d3.259 toejam advocates lynching idle, same meta reasons as Lightfoot and others hve given[spoiler]
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d3.265/6/7 either toejam’s posts seem equally incomprehensible as meeko
d3.294 #4 of course scum are looking for the the town power roles, so toejam decides to play a “fake cop” ? “However, Once Day 2 came around, I again started dropping off breadcrumbs to hint that I might be an investigator.
–WHY?
–Because I wanted to. I felt it would throw some heat off the real cops, give them time to investigate.” - but we had lost the detective and the reporter - tho hopefully the understudy picked one up.
Can’t say I got a cop vibe off of toejam’s posts at all.
And now he claims doc…still dont understand the town target themselves crap…if someone was seen targeting themselves it would be pretty obvious they would be a self protecting doc. But it is unlikely to be counterclaimed so unvote toejam
So that moves idle up to the top of my suspicion list, tho it’s for purely metagame reasons
[color=blue]vote: idle[color]
what notes! your posts are content free and biodegradable.
Seriously? you think the mafia or wolves find it difficult to cast suspicion on one or two folk out of the 48 that aren’t on their team? I have a slight lean on x,y,z - indeed posting lists makes it easier for them
So after all that re-reading you did, the best you could come up with is a lynch the low poster list, then shoot in the 3rd party pool? I thought we were playing mafia not pin the tail on the donkey. I hereby request that Special Ed put in a guest appearance and post half of wikipedia just to keep the post count up!
Shooting into the 3rd party pool is such a bad strategy - the fact that you continue to push it after others have already stated why it bad makes me highly suspicious of you.
d3.351 so svejk didn’t sub in?
d3.377 fair comments from Guiri on Toejam’s claim
44 players alive, 14 scum - so ~1/3rd of the living are scum.
In any random sample of 14 players, you would statistically expect 1/3 of them to be scum
But somehow, you had deduced that 50% of the 14 that you have picked are scum. The only way you would know that is if a) you were a cop with a lot of investigations under your belt, or b) you were scum.
d3.398 pepper changes vote to idle - self preservation
exactly - so he’s now playing lightning rod and the watcher needs to keep an eye on him just in case the scum decide to bump him off.
so the whole argument is that scum would waste their kills trying to kill him as he self protects..a big pile of stinking wifom
It’s still anti-town at this point in time.
d3.509 and idle wants out…and the usual idle stuff follows
of course, if he is town, a modkill+mislynch benefits scum.
prof’s model sucks, but he’s most likely town as it would be unlikely that scum would try such a move as the modkill will deal with non-particpants for them. so mislynching town, rather than mislynch and two modkills today, would be a better result for town
you’ve not participated enough in this game for that, but you’ve certainly done it in the past - ie the game with you and pizza where the scum team imploded.
Quite frankly, what came across to me with that post is “Let’s you (Lightfoot) and 'im (MHaye) fight.”
All that does is makes me think you know neither Lightfoot nor I are on your side. And (as I mentioned earlier) I am Town-aligned.
Vote Prof Pepperwinkle.
If you, Lightfoot or any other player want to do a WoW on me I’ll be pleased to answer any questions you wish to raise.
On another issue, having seen ToeJam’s claim, I’d like to remind people that he has experience playing a limited Doc who protects against one of multiple killing factions. So I can see he might come up with this plan to entice the team he protects against to attack him and fail. (It should be noted that he was prohibited from claiming he could protect against the Shu clan on pain of losing all his powers and becoming Vanilla. So he claimed to hate footwear.)
So since he’s got form in bizarre claims, I’m not going to vote for him Today.
Lakai v2 has been quite quiet. 5 days between these two posts, as if nothing happened in between - really no opinion?:
Me too, so much that I’ve deleted all my notes for Koldanar as i was conflating the two. BTW, just Toejam, not a single other scum lean?
Still wouldn’t explain it though.
I know the whole lynch the lurker then vote the 3rd party craycray has been raised, but this, what exactly is your plan, spend 5 days lynching the 3rd parties and then, once we finish, start looking for scum? Or this:
Svejk???
“I am assuming”… “for certain”???
This is the big one, having scum take a stance, any stance, restricts them later on.
How do you suggest we resolve this? Lynch them all? Lynch one? Investigate?
The part that’s addressed to me…it would explain it to me. The history is that in the last game I correctly sniffed out two players as scum on Days One and Two, with little explanation of my leans because I was having IRL issues. Paul subbed in for me. And when the game was over he said he was in awe of my town skills and would have to be very wary of me the next time he was scum.
So, in this game, if he’s some form of scum, I think he’d be wary of me. It’s one of the major reasons for my suspicion of him.
His interactions today make me feel better about him though.
Motive: I like these games. I hate to see peoples’ efforts being wasted by someone who won’t participate. I hate to see the mods’ efforts thwarted by someone who won’t participate. If someone isn’t going to play, then don’t play. Don’t waste other peoples’ time.
He isn’t being mod-killed right now. That doesn’t mean he won’t be mod-killed later. Do you think Idle Thoughts is going to play the game? He’s posting, but he isn’t really playing. Do you think he will continue to post Tomorrow? Do you think the mods will countenance simply meeting the minimum requirements per Day long term?
I voted to lynch you D1 and D2 because I think you are scum and my reaction to your claim was “Bleuggh, yuck, eww.” This is not making a case against you - already been there, it’s vocalizing why I feel you’re full of it but willing to be consider that you are the doc and I’ve been wrong.