I chuckled out loud, which is rare for me. 
(I’ve been home for more than a day, but stayed quiet because I worry Night-time discussion helps Scum. I guess I’m growing up: Despite Bangkok’s glitter I confined my pleasure to a few bookstores and Japanese restaurants and hurried home to wife and kids.)
Yes, I did. To answer your earlier question I posted my exact role PM, using mouse click-drag-Control-C to copy it.
Would Trepa have said so if Orcenio’s death were a Mod-Kill? I was certainly hoping the Vig-kill experiment would be completed last Night so I could try to Protect a Power role toNight. (Though I’ve not yet identified any likely Town Powers other than myself. :smack: )
The way players suddenly piled on Inner Stickler yesterDay to avoid Lynching Scathach was certainly striking.
Guiri, let me ask you a question: Please rank, in order of likely Scumminess, the four votes on Inner:
“Inner Stickler (4): Scathach, choie, Guiri, Švejk”
You’re referring to Svejk and I, right? If you look at the vote record, I saw the opposite: 3 votes within an hour or so on Scathach looked like an attempt to save Inner.
The votes or the voters? I didn’t find Scathach’s or Choie’s vote scummy, just not compelling, Scathach’s could have applied to several players, Choie added some meat. Obviously I stand by my vote despite being wrong. Svejk used a similar argument to mine although he made no mention of Hirka. As for potential scum motivation, any vote on a townie has a potential scum motivation. Given Inner’s flip, if Scathach is scum, Svejk’s stands out.
Ooh can I play?
- Scathach
- Svejk
- Guiri
- choie
For me, Scathach trumps Svejk because she’s been targeted now by two people who are dead; one via lynching after a bandwagon, and one via nefarious scum. Also because there was a last minute rush to get her off the gallows. Assuming at least one of the threesome of Scathach, Svejk and Guiri is scum, I think it’s likely Scathach; with Scathach being town, the other hypothetical scum team’s behavior doesn’t make much sense to me. Either that or all four of us are Town, in which case, yipe, we have no useful info from this vote.
Svejk is an excellent player and I think he knows almost too much to be a vanilla newbie. His sudden vote-switching from one bandwagon to another is a bit neat. Frankly I kinda like the idea of both of them being scum. (But on the other hand, this seemed like such an obvious scummy move to leap on a bandwagon, the only way this works is if they were really epecting some of the lurkers to join in and bus Scathach.)
Guiri pinged me before but not quite as much as the others. His prosecutorial behavior grates and could be seen as trying too hard; then again, maybe he’s trying exactly as hard as he should be, since our town’s lives are at stake.
choie is patently an innocent townie and frankly I’m aghast that she’s even on this list.
How would you identify likely Town Powers? Do doctors have some investigatory power or something?
I still suspect ed, and to a certain extent fubble, but you know who has pinged me quite a bit?
Choie.
It’s her tone, I think. Very light, supportive, making casual comment on others. I think she’s scum hiding in play sight. Anyway, it’s early. I’m voting to get it out there.
Vote choie
Hmm, Astral was obviously going to do this…
**Vote: **Švejk
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Interesting, Mahaloth. I didn’t think I was being all that casual; so far I think I’ve made more analytical cases (on a post-by-post basis) than most others, having taken exhaustive and exhausting looks at three players. But it’s nice to hear I’m supportive, even if it also means you don’t trust me.
Meanwhile, I’m glad you brought up fubbleskag, because I’d almost forgotten about his strange behavior just before EOD. I’m kind of surprised that he chose to vote for septimus, then unvoted him after septimus claimed as doctor, then–after a series of very strange lackadaisical posts mostly consisting of copy/pasting and smilies–revotes septimus. Was it laziness? Fear of joining either the Inner or Scathach trains? Why did you still vote for septimus when most people quickly shifted their votes and decided to wait and see what happened at Night? What’s the story there, fubbleskag?
Although it just struck me… if septimus’s only proof is that he self-protected and wasn’t killed… that isn’t a hugely strong case for him. He could be scum who naturally wasn’t killed. Crap, the loss of the detective is a real pain in the ass.
(Wait, no. It’d probably be too risky to claim doctor as scum–they don’t know whether we have a real doctor who’d counterclaim.)
To make a shirt list:
Things that point to Septimus being Town:
- No counter claim.
- Asked for Vig to shoot at him.
Things that point to Septimus being Scum: - Doc claim may have been ploy to get Doc to counter claim.
- We have a dead bodyguard, was there a calculated guess there was no Doc?
Things to consider: - Doc may be an inactive player
- If Vig didn’t shoot at Septimus, could they have believed him? or could they be a SK?
- We still don’t know if the orcenio death was a mod kill (but I’m betting Vig/SK kill)
PS, you made me giggle with the "I'm glad you brought up fubbleskag" comment.
If you've ever seen Rat Race, I imagine Mr Bean going, "Look, a drifter!"(Bleached)
Holy crap. I just went back to look at his (Astral Rejection’s) posts to refresh my memory about whether he’d suspected Švejk and yep, he’d made his intentions loud and clear – I’d totally forgotten that. I’d also forgotten I’d written this right afterward:
Now Astral’s dead and this makes me look horrible. (Or brilliantly prescient, but that’s wishful thinking indeed! Sadly I suspect I’ll be accused of PIS.) I wonder if I opened myself up to scum, who first killed Astral with the side effect of making me look really scummy and thus good candidate for lynching. And thereby continuing our stellar record of lynching Townies.
How does that make you look bad?
You seem overly sensitive.
Do your laundry on your own time!
If we have a dead bodyguard, a dead detective, and no Doctor, we are seriously fucked. (Though if septimus just keeps saving himself, there’s really not much use to him, is there?)
God, I hope not. Bad enough we had an inactive detective.
Yeah, I’m with you. I really don’t think Trepa would leave us hanging like that (um… so to speak). Also a mod kill would usually mean a sub would be called in, wouldn’t it? Unless Drain Bread wasn’t available/interested anymore.
Alas I’ve never seen a Mr. Bean movie. Dare I ask if this is a good giggle or a bad giggle?
It makes me look like I have Perfect Information Syndrome, doesn’t it? Plus, I just got a vote against me, and I was the first person voted in the whole game. Damn straight I’m sensitive!
Also I just find it funny that I was right. That… doesn’t happen often.
Meanwhile Astral’s suspicion of Svejk makes the latter look bad, since we’re naturally looking at whom Astral suspected. Again, scum could be taking advantage of that.
Yes, Astral’s death is all WiFoM. I only mentioned it because I found it funny…and his wife wanted me to honor his memory 
If Švejk is Town, Scum could have killed Astral to increase suspicion of him.
However, if Švejk is Scum, they could have killed Astral to get rid of some suspicion and hope that we’d consider Astral’s death WiFoM.
I’ve played it both ways as Scum.
As to you being right, yeah, it doesn’t look like PIS
because what did you know, that the Scum were going to kill Astral in the future?
That means either:
- You are Scum and were giving away your actions in the game thread…to what end…?
- You are Town and Scum wanted to make it look like you were giving away their actions in the game thread???
This is all leaving me with the impression that you are more concerned with how you look than I think you should be.
It's 1 darn vote.Vote Count:
choie (1): Mahaloth
Svejk (1): Special Ed
It was not, in fact, a mod kill.
One of my favorite comedies.
Seriously.
Maybe it’s because I’d never heard of it and watched it one night with my son while he was in the hospital for testing, but my whole family loves it.
Its a race? I hope I win!
You…should…have…bought…a…squirrel
Thank you for answering.
So, we have two kills tonight, and we had two kills last night. The way I figure it, there is three options
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The Scum have independent kills, so, there are two of them killing every night (Is this something people more experienced have ever seen?).
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The scum are killing someone, and we have a Serial Killer in the game.
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We have a Vig who has unlimited shots who has shot blindly the past 2 days, and the scum are killing someone.
Number 1 doesn’t seem likely to me, not very “Newbie Friendly”, and number 3 doesn’t seem that likely to me because I haven’t played in a game with an unlimited shot Vig… so I’m thinking number 2 is most likely. So, not only do we have scum we need to watch for, we have a SK.
There are 14 of us left alive, we started with 20, with 6 people dead. If we figure this is 3 scum and a SK, that would be:
Day 3: 13 alive
Night 3: 11 alive
Day 4: 10 alive
Night 4: 8 alive
Day 5: 7 alive
Night 5: 5 alive
So, if the SK doesn’t hit scum, and we don’t lynch the SK or scum, we only have 3 day/night cycles left…
If we assume 4 scum and a SK, we only have 2 day/night cycles.
People who are more experienced then I (or know where to find that point list thingamajig), if we assume town only has the known power roles, Cop, Bodyguard, Doctor; and we assume a SK, how many scum can we honestly expect?
Why does everyone think I’m paranoid? You talk about this behind my back, don’t you?
(Speaking of movie quotes…)
Gotcha. Thanks for letting us know!
So gang: Vig or SK? Seems like a vig’s more likely. Would a SK only target lurkers? (I’m assuming the same person offed gregorio and orcenio. Hmm. Considering those names… maybe it’s an Italophobe!)
Wait, vigs have some kind of limitation on their shots? What the hell, Batman has no friggin’ limits, why should our vig (if he is ours)?
How many are they limited to, typically?
Considering this game is (superficially at least) about lovers, couldn’t there be a Romeo/Juliet type of pair? THough I guess those aren’t power roles, just a weird dynamic, right?
I have more often seen unlimited Vigilantes than limited ones.
Of the types of Vigilantes, in what I would consider decreasing popularity:
- Unlimited, voluntary - possible
- Unlimited, mandatory (must kill each Night) - possible
- Remorseful (kills self after killing Town) - unlikely
- Limited with 2 shots at least - possible, not very likely
Additionally, it is still possibly a SK who is hoping if he is found out, he can claim to be a Vigilante
Regarding the 2 Scum kills, I don’t think we would have 2 multiple player, non-Town factions in a Newbie friendly game. And I don’t think one side would get 2 kills, unless it is a very small side. And that doesn’t srike me as newbie friendly either.
I haven’t played in that many games more then you. This is the 4th actual game I’ve been involved with. In those games, I haven’t seen the vig actually do anything (always got killed really early), but, it was normally even a one shot vig, or a remorseful vig (can shoot unlimited amount of times, as long as he doesn’t kill a “Town” player, if he does, he loses his power).
I don’t know how common this is either way, just know from the few games I’ve played here on the SDMB.
It is possible… I have read about those roles. However, the mod did say the color is “Just Color”… So, I don’t know… But, doesn’t those roles just mean if one dies they both die?