Is this really that popular? That could explain the shooting into the crowd bit… However, I would think if we had a mandatory vig, s/he would have shot at the claimed doctor (who claimed they would self protect), instead of shooting a random non-participatory person.
Mandatory vigs must shoot, not that they are penalized if they don’t actually kill… right?
That’s usually how it works.
But a mandatory Vig might also want to take care of the non-participants.
While I’m awake, I’m going to go ahead and
Vote Švejk
Because I’m still suspicious of Scathach, but I agree with proven townie Astral that Švejk would be a better lynch to prove or disprove the both of them.
I am still not sure of the difference between a Vig and an SK, the Vig is usually Town and wins when Town does? Does an SK just have to last to the end of the game?
Astral’s death is really a WIFOM to me. He did say that he was going to vote for Svejk toDay and lo and behold he was killed. I am really not sure what to think of that. Is Svejk scum who decided to take out** Astral** because of what** Astral** said or is it that scum wanted **Svejk ** to take the heat for Astral’s death?
I don’t know why** Svejk**'s death would either clear or condemn** Scathach** too. If Svejk is Town that doesn’t clear Scathach although I do agree that if he is scum then I would think it more than likely that** Scathach** is scum too.
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[li]You seem to understand the difference between Vig and SK. You can think of an SK as a Single person Scum team. Though, sometimes they don’t need to make it to EndGame, sometimes they win if they last to Day % or until there are 5 players left, etc[/li][li]Yes, it’s all WiFoM, true, but that doesn’t diminish the case against Svejk[/li][li]If Svejk is Scum, it increases the likelihood that Scathach is Scum. If he’s Town, it doesn’t change the liklihood that Scathach is Scum.[/li][/ul]
Thank you, it makes it easier to think of the SK as a single person scum team.
I take it that you mean that if the Vig had taken a shot at the doc and he was self protecting then we could confirm that he is the doc? That’s quite a clever idea. Maybe the Vig thought that s/he would rather get rid of the lurkers first because often scum do lurk, especially if they are new to the game.
Your position makes no sense.
Here’s the thinking, at least as I see it. Obviously we don’t know you’re town, so we can’t take that into account. Lynching you doesn’t really prove anything that much about Svejk.
If you flip town, a town Svejk could’ve just been exchanging one townie for another he found more suspicious, particularly if he was uneasy about the sudden bandwagon effect. Meanwhile, the motives of a scum Svejk are more obscure; he might have wanted to look innocent and avoid the alleged trainwreck. Or he may have thought that more lurkers would vote and alleviate him of any guilt associated with lynching a townie. (That’s my pet theory if you’re town.) Or I suppose he may have felt that Inner was more likely a power role.
If you flip scum, we’re stuck with guessing about either an unlucky yet genuine town Svejk or a wiser scum Svejk, who wanted to avoid your lynching. OTOH, as he looks pretty bad for doing so, an argument could be made that we’d assume he’s not scum. But he’s a new player and it’s possible as scum he just made that mistake in judgment. The whole thing’s a big crap shoot.
Meanwhile, let’s reverse this and say we lynch Svejk:
If he flips town, we can assume nothing about you (as he was probably genuinely fearing the bandwagon that was forming on you).
If he flips scum, you look really bad, worse than Svejk looks in either of the two scenarios above, IMHO. After all, as you say, a scum Svejk is far less likely to exchange a townie for a townie, which means we can assume you’re scum.
Also, posts by known townie Astral can be taken with a little more seriousness than any of us unconfirmed folks. Kind of like a “dying declaration” has some legal value in a murder case. Of course he could’ve been wrong just as easily as any of us, but one must consider the assumption that he was killed for a reason.
I’m really not sure about either of you. The only other person on the Inner train whom I’m relatively comfortable with lately is Guiri, but even my intuition on him could be wrong.
The trouble with this game is that there are so many lurkers or at least people with very low levels of participation. That is really anti-Town and works against the spirit of the game. I just don’t understand why they joined up or, if things got too busy in RL (as is quite typical at this time of year), then they should recuse themselves ASAP and let us take them out of the equation. They’re serving no purpose except making our jobs more difficult.
/ghostly:
Yeah, shame on the lurkers. Why sign up if you won’t play? I don’t get it at all.
Well, don’t get me wrong, I would rather see Svejk lynched over me, since I know I’m town but only *think *he’s town.
I agree with you on lack of participation though.
Has **Svejk **disappeared? He hasn’t posted since Day started.
Hirka, can you respond to the criticism of your vote yesterDay?
Precambrian, Fluiddruid, what do you guys make of yesterDay’s lynch?
SilverJan, I had a question for you a while back.
True. His last post in this thread was on the 10th at 5:30PM ET. FWIW, he posted elsewhere on the board both yesterday and today.
As far as your questions to fluiddruid and precambrianmollusc… yeah, good luck with that. PCM was on today but hasn’t posted here since the 6th, and fluiddruid is (naturally, as a mod) online a lot but hasn’t posted to the SDMB since the 6th (and her last post in the game was the 2nd).
For that matter, where the heck is septimus, the only apparently confirmed Townie?!
Can you explain this again? You wanted to cause a 4-way tie with your vote on Mahaloth? Which posts did you read that showed him having 2 votes?
You didn’t vote Mahaloth, your number 1 candidate, because he had no votes and another one-off wouldn’t get him lynched so you voted Special Ed, who already had one vote and is your number 2 candidate, exactly 11 minutes before the end of the Day, so he would be lynched? Did you notice the vote count above your post?
Did you ever go back to see what he might have done? Do you suspect scum killed Wevets to make PCM look townier?
Wait, what are the details here?
He cast a basically one-off vote (really a 2 off vote) with 11 minutes to go while the vote was tied?
Did he comment on the other vote getters?
You asked the question and then rephrased it for clarity, didn’t get a response but proceeded to vote anyway. I understand why you didn’t vote for yourself but why did you vote Scathach over all the other lurkers?
Yes, he did:
It just seemed pointless to vote you over Mahaloth when neither of you were going to be lynched, so why make the distinction?
I did go back and reread wevets. I did not find anything I thought notable. I don’t really think I was looking for evidence that they were trying to make PCM look townie at the time, but I don’t remember anything that would have led me to that conclusion. I may have to go back and look at their interaction to see if that would make sense.
Honestly, I did not go back and look at every single player. I think I have mentioned the ones I reviewed, which were Mahaloth, Inner Stickler, Scathach, septimus, and fubbleskag. I reviewed Scathach because I saw Svejk’s case and thought it had some merit. I was asking Svejk the question because I wondered if he had looked at all the lurkers and low participants that closely or if something had just stuck out about Scathach causing him to notice her.