you’re obviously referring to D1. i don’t recall that my vote was making a four-way tie. i voted as i was catching up. at the time i saw that Mahaloth had two votes and a viable lynch candidate.
no, i didn’t. i was composing before that vote count. i was again catching up as that’s the time i am able to get online for a fairly substantial amount of time. that’s after work for me since i live in Asia. i didn’t realize that i only had 11 minutes. i thought i had an hour more so others might consider Special Ed.
My intention after end of Day yesterDay was to vote for Svejk toDay, but now I am not as sure.
It all seems a bit too obvious, like scum are trying to lead us down that path.
Evidence that Svejk is scum:
His vote change late in the Day yesterDay.
Astral’s death last Night.
Svejk’s change in his posting pattern (he has disappeared).
Reasons he may not be scum:
His vote change was too obviously a possible scum play for scum to really consider it.
Astral’s death feels like scum are trying to get Svejk lynched.
I don’t know. I don’t really object to his lynch, since it will provide us some information and if he is not lynched he will continue to be a question mark. I am just not confident that we are actually lynching scum.
I may vote for someone else just to draw attention to them as possibly scummy, but I am not going to argue against a Svejk lynch.
It does seem odd. Makes me think that if gnarly is Scum, then it’s likely that Scathach is not, because he didn’t seem terribly concerned and could have cast a vote.
Of course, it could just be a non-commital Townie gnarly.
Svejk and mental are Scum buddies. Mental would really like Svejk to survive another day and put off his lynching, so he’s looking for other candidates. But he wants to be supportive of the lynch to earn some Townie Cred.
Svejk is Town and Mental is Scum. Mental wants to push others to the forefront of our minds. He also wants to be able to point out he didn’t vote to lynch Svejk. Maybe he can even cast an off-vote on a Fellow Scum or push another bandwagon.
Or Mental could be Town and these could be his earnest thoughts. But they stike me as an odd support for a lynching he doesn't support....
After going back and looking, no I don’t think scum killed wevets to make PCM look townie. I think wevets was protecting someone and got killed in their place.
Yeah, I should have learned by now not to post these type of things, since it seems they almost always lead to me getting lynched, but it seems I can’t help myself.
All I can say is that those are my honest thoughts. I don’t think there is any chance Svejk will be night-killed (well, our vig might take him out), and each Day he stays in the game, the bigger question mark he becomes. I think it is probably better to off him now. I am just not confident that we are actually catching a scum.
Sorry, I have no recollection of you asking me a question, do I have to go and try and find it or could you just ask me again?
I think it would be helpful if Svejk came back and faced his accusers, his staying away makes him look like scum but maybe RL got in the way.
@** Mental Guy**, I find it rather odd that you are prepared to go along with the lynch of someone that you don’t believe to be scum, this just goes against the grain for me. If you just sit back and let what you see as a mislynch go through then that looks anti-town to me. Scum will just be rubbing their hands in glee, unless of course you are scum.
Mind you, each of these folks has been at the SDMB in the past two days, most of them (except for fluiddruid) having posted in other threads.
I don’t mean to be a tattle-tale, but… this is awful. We’re talking about five out of fourteen players left, with at most ten Townies. What the hell, guys?
I dunno, it strikes me that he’s not saying he’s sure Svejk is innocent, just that he’s not sure he’s guilty. And apparently he doesn’t think anyone is more convincingly scummy, or presumably he’d mention it. So if he feels there’s at least some info to be gained by Svejk’s lynching… I think it’s a defensible comment.
The only trouble is that if Svejk flips Town, we’re not any wiser as far as anyone else goes, as far as I can tell. (The only real info we’ll gain comes if he’s scum. Am I reading that correctly?)
OH by the way, I have a question, which funnily enough was broached by my sister, who’s never played a game of Mafia in her life. (In fact she’s not really a game player at all.) Anyway, I was trying to explain the rules to her, including all the various roles, and mentioned the role of Serial Killer being sort of his/her own team. Then she asked me a question that I realize I have no freakin’ idea about:
In games with SKs, do Scum players know who the SK is, and vice versa?
For that matter (this question’s my own), does the SK ever kill Mafia folks? Seems to me that if the answer to the first question is “no,” then the SK has a good incentive to kill Mafia just as much as Townies.
hey do not initially know each other. Some things can be figured out through game play or game mechanics (investigations)
Depending on the win condition of the SK, it can (and usually does) benefit a SK to make sure Scum die.
If a SK needs to make it to EndGame, they need to make sure the game remains balanced. If the Scum win too easily, they won’t ever get to EndGame. If the Town overwhelms the Scum, they;ll most likely eventually find the SK before he can killeveryone
I have no idea about the SK and scum knowing each other, I have just finally got it into my head the difference between the Vig and the SK
I hadn’t realised that there were quite so many inactive players, that makes it quite difficult as there is no interaction at all.** fliuddruid** hasn’t posted since the 2nd??? Has she asked to be subbed out? Looking at the dates it is only her and** Precambrianmollusc** that haven’t posted for ages, the other 3 were posting before the weekend.
I do read the thread. I see the logic in Lynching one of Scathach or Svejk due to yesterDay’s suspicious vote switch, and am tempted to vote Scathach. (Obviously we want to Lynch whichever is more likely to be Scum. The strongest part of the case against Svejk depends on Scathach also being Scum.) But there are two or three “helpful” Players giving me stronger ping sensations than Scathach or Svejk, so I will hold off while the Day is still young.
The fact that I’m semi-confirmed makes me less willing to vote lightly. Since Town might follow my lead, I’d want to have confidence in my vote.
Huh, I read choie’s post and thought, no, surely people would have noticed fubbleskag doing something as strange as that. But that is in fact exactly what he did.
@fubbleskag: Why would you vote for a claimed doctor when you said you were willing to believe his claim?
Bah!
To paraphrase:
I haven’t posted.
Here is a list of 2 potential lynch candidates.
Other unnamed people are “helpful” That makes me suspicious.
I’m not going to do anything.
If your objective was to avoid being accused of being "helpful", then well done!
You intentionally stayed quiet between Svejk’s vote in #119, the votes on Svejk from Precambrian in #136 and Mahaloth in #159, Svejk’s poke in #177 and Svejk’s suggestion that he may unvote you if someone more suspicious came along in #203? Or was it just because you weren’t online as you initially indicated?
If not posting for the last few days makes me scummy I can’t really help that but frankly with all the people that have been missing votes and going AWOL, I think I ought to be cut some slack here. I’ve been away from the thread for a few days because, frankly, morale’s been low and I fear that I’ll be lynched which I think will be a shame for me as well as for the town since it will turn up no useful information and make me the 7th consecutive dead townie. I am not really certain how I can prevent that; I could point out other people’s odd posts or something, but most of what people are doing is post about me.
What they don’t really do though is actually engage with my reasoning in this matter. I responded to my detractors extensively on Saturday, here. I have also admitted that I understand the situation that my vote switch has placed you all in and that although I stand by my reasoning, it was not a smart move. What more do you want to have me say? If you have any questions about my post in which I explain myself, I’d be happy to answer them, but so far no one has really asked me a whole lot of anything that felt like it needed my response (except for when** Ed** suggested I was ‘so cumming’, that made me laugh.
Even Ed, who has already voted for me, has not really made a complete case. Sure, he’s laid out all the four scenarios, but he admits herethat he can’t say the scenarios are equally probable. Still, he has voted for me, so that indicates that the scenarios in which I am scum are more likely to him than the scenarios in which I am not (provided he is a rational actor; if he just wants me dead because he is scum that changes the deal). I have not seen any justification from him or from others why they think it’s more likely that I’m scum and not town, given my testimony in post 595. It’s disheartening that people lose sight so easily of the things that I’ve contributed in this thread, all of which had many people strongly leaning town on me before I switched votes, and none of which have been brought up in my defense since.
@Guiri, no, I have never intentionally been missing, I think you might have noticed that I have been a bit more vocal since I arrived home on Friday night. I did try and contribute from Mauritius but it was a bit difficult there.
Oh and I would probably also vote more often if I could post from my phone, but I can’t. I can read the thread on my phone, but I can’t login, because I don’t know how to type a Š on my phone :smack:
