Mafia V: The Cult of Sekham

So in a nutshell, the Apprentice needs to find an unobvious way to say “Yo, Oracle! Over here!” asap…

:eek: You mean, the cultists have already WON?!?! NOOOOOOooooooooo. . .

Is lurking being allowed as a strategy, or will lurkers be switched out?

A totally randomized vote, as suggested by MtgMan, is worse than the Town not dunking anyone. We’d gain no information while probably killing a Townie. If we want to forfeit our turn, better to not dunk anyone. That way we won’t kill a Townie. Never mind the logistics of getting a simultaneous vote on this board.

Random votes as advocated by me are a tool for bootstrapping the discuss in the early part of the first Day. The final vote decision needs to be something accountable.

I’m waiting for Autolycus to make his entrance. Then I can accuse him of being suspicious because (1) he’s using a Cultist accent, (2) he’s not using a Cultist accent, (3) he took too long to make an entrance, or (4) he jumped in too soon. Pick your poison! :smiley:

The conversion (recruitment) is a one shot deal. If it is attempted, regardless of whether if succeeds or fails, it may not be attempted again.

Further, the ability to convert is lost upon the death of the Prophet. As with other night actions, if the Prophet is attacked at Night, by the Psychopath or Crusader, when they are attempting to recruit, the recruit will still be processed.

All I’m saying is that the Priest can get killed by accident - for example, they can be night-killed if they miscalculate and protect someone else on the night the cultists decide to attack the Priest - before they get a chance to use their bless-everyone power. I’m all for taking calculated risks for the greatest reward - I was merely speculating as to how the Priest’s bless-everyone power could be maxmized for greatest effect.

By one shot, do you mean it can only be done once during the entire course of the game?

Well, the priest’s not killable if he’s protecting himself, but I guess at least some of the time he’d be protecting someone else.

Gah. Thread moving too fast, again!

Yes, that’s what it means.

The prophet’s role :

(Bolding mine).

The Cult can only do it once.

From Mafia : A Theoretical Study Of Players and Coalitions in a Partial
Information Environment
(warning, PDF)

I’ve listed a number of reasons I’m skeptical of this analysis holding for this particular format, and I’m open to discussion about other strategies.

Also, upon re-reading the article, I found this passage.

So I’m thinking we’re probably dealing along the lines of 7, maybe 8 scum. Hopefully 7 because we have a scum power role which can recruit and if they recruited then we’d be looking at 9 scum, which is a really high number for a 30 person game.

Enjoy,
Steven

:smack: Sorry. I read the rules, I swear.

The Horror THE HORROR

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

True, but in any case, I think that there shouldn’t be anyone allowed to lurk that much…because if they are subbed out, at the very least the new person would know not to lurk that much and would give the believers more info to work with.

Excuse me? The Priest is not Night killable? Where are you getting that from? :dubious:

Snipped some.

I think it’s half and half. Like I said in my post above…NOT voting at all is bad, I think. It gives up the right to kill a scum off. However we do have about five days to go over stuff and go back and forth with accusations and ideas and thoughts and inconsistences and all the like. So I think voting just based on random.org and in the first hour alone is a bit hasty and aggressive.

Votes like MtS gave, I think, are at least based on things. Using Random.org seems to easy without a good explanation behind it.

Ok, working off of my “the scum want the rest of us to be miserable” theory, we have HazelNutCoffee and NAF cleared. Good job, folks.

pats NAF comfortingly on shoulder There, there. I’m sure the secret role is actually the town’s Underground Moonshine Dealer, here to save us all from insanity. All we have to do is find them. looks around speculatively

If he continuously blesses himself, he’s not.

Just want to mention for the first timers: Don’t think that scum won’t vote for other scum, or that the other roles won’t vote for each other either. The last thing they want is a clearly distinguished voting pattern. That said, as more people die and roles are revealed, the voting patterns become very interesting indeed.

I do think there’s a fine line between lurking as a strategy and lurking because you’re not participating. However, I will not set a rule of thumb because I think it encourages fluff posting.
I won’t be explicitly checking either because it’s too much leg work; if it’s not explicitly obvious that someone is missing, does it matter? If I see a few complaints like “Hey, So-So isn’t participating!” I’ll investigate and see if it warrants poking. If so, I’ll poke him, and if he doesn’t respond to poking, I’ll forcibly substitute.

Very true, but the presence of the Avatar makes that a very risky play for the scum this time around. They may be less willing to join up on a “well, they’re gonna swing anyway” bandwagon.

I am surprised at you story

1.Already acknowledged my mistake

2.What you say is simply not true,there is nothing inconsistent about it . Jackal said I said something I did not say.Wether I agree with what he said I said does not matter.

3.Saying no one looks scummy is scummy, even with the “one little thing” thrown in.Scum tells are not gonna be by the book and that particular post seems like a variant of said scum tell.