Can you explain to me why potentially blocking a night kill isn’t in the Town’s interests?
Sure I’ve thought of it, and so have the Cult. If you truly believe his role is to protect another player by dying for him at night, then why haven’t you (the Cult) already night killed him? Presumably protecting himself is superfluous and why would another town role protect him? He should be killed early if you believe this is the exact nature of his role. I personally feel Blaster Master would introduce a little more nuance to the role like he has with all the others and this makes him dangerous for you to attack at night.
Not necessarily. The downside of the Plan (with only the Unknown 6 voting for zuma and no one else voting at all) is that the Cultist can swing their vote to whomever zuma is voting for at the last minute. This would lead to a Town dunking, but would shine a big giant spotlight on several remaining Cultist. The argument that this is a bad thing lies in the possibility of being near or in a lynch or lose situation and worsening things in the long run.
On Preview: Hockey Monkey, I think I’ve done that for you.
You know what I think would be a good plan… let’s get zuma and Pygmy Rugger into a tie at the end of the Day. Then in the extended 12 hours everyone has to vote for one of them. That would be an interesting development. Let me look at the vote count again to see if it’s feasible. Anyone have any thoughts? It’s a little harder to implement than the CatinaSuit plan, but it allows the Power Roles to be active in the voting process Today.
zuma(5) - Pygmy Rugger, Kyrie Eleison, FCOD, USCDiver, NAF1138 Pygmy Rugger(2) - Pleonast, zuma Kyrie Eleison(1) - Queuing
8 out of 12 votes cast. Yet to vote (or not vote at all): MHaye, CatinaSuit, Cookies, Hockey Monkey.
I’m willing to switch my vote over to Pygmy Rugger or leave it on zuma if others want to try for a tie Today. I think either player is a good choice for various reasons.
zuma - 100% cultist, keeping him alive gives the Alchemist a slight advantage, killing him risks Sekham’s revenge against a townie, not likely to be the Prophet
Pygmy Rugger - 90% sure he’s a cultist (in my mind), keeping him alive today gives an obvious target for tomorrow, killing him risks small chance he’s a Townie, but also possibly the Prophet.
I’d like to encourage the players who haven’t voted for zuma to vote for Pygmy Rugger and let’s all just ignore zuma’s vote for now.
I’d rather not try to tie things up, but I’m more than willing now to dunk **Pygmy ** tomorrow based on his smoke blowing efforts today. I started the day thinking he was town, but now not so much.
I will be around to hammer a vote if things start to turn ugly, but I think **Cookies ** would be a good candidate to do that. She has already used her power, and except for knowing that she is confirmed town there isn’t much more she can do.
We haven’t heard anything from **Queuing ** for a long while. I anticipate he’ll have some sort of problem with the lynch **zuma ** plan.
I’d agree, except for the fact that my internet access turns into a pumpkin as soon as I leave work this afternoon (approx. 3:30pm Pacific). Our repair appointment at home is set for Weds afternoon.
Yes, it lowers the chance that Sekham’s Revenge will take out a Cultist, if zuma is the Avatar. As long as one or two of the 6 Knowns can be online at the end of the day we should be able to thwart any last minute action.
I agree it would be difficult to force a tie even without zuma interfering, but I’d be happy with dunking either of them and trying for a tie using the other currently non-voting players I think we could at the least guarantee that one of them was dunked.
I hadn’t really thought about it much, but Cookies’ role really is essentially as vanilla Town now, except that she is unrecruitable. But since the Cult already knows this she might as well play as a regular Townie. If she joins in the CatinaSuit Plan then we could guard against a last minute Cult switcheroo even if she and I are not around come Nightfall.
:rolleyes: Why does he need to ask you specifically about it. We all know the situation, why should your opinion on the matter hold more weight than anybody elses?
But if Pleonast, CatinaSuit, or **I ** have to scuttle any vote manipulation, the chance of Sekham’s revenge going to one of us is entered into the equation…and the three of us can potentially avert a Cult action. I actually think it would be better for **Cookies ** to go ahead and vote. That way the chance of voting hanky-panky is minimized and we don’t have to chance losing a still actionable power role.
Maybe to be polite and inquire as to what the person who plays the role might think about it? I dunno…my opinion hasn’t seemed to sway anyone in this game so far…I don’t think it holds more weight than anyone elses.
I don’t know if his vote for PR indicates his last word toDay or not, but Pleonast indicates that he’s going to be without access for the next 3 days. It doesn’t sound like he’ll be available to scuttle. And frankly, based on my earlier post about Pleo I would not be too thrilled with him having any further power to tip things one way or another than he already has.
Can this approach still work if only Hockey and Catina are monitoring the end of the Day?
Well, I think the worst case scenario would be that three of the six Unknowns are actually scum, and they all switch their vote along with zuma to someone else. That would leave three votes on zuma and four on someone else. We’d need one person to tie the votes or two people to dunk zuma.
Frankly **Pleonast ** your reasoning is completely twisted. The whole point of today is to force the scum to vote for a confirmed scum and you have decided to play anti-town.
After this goes through tonight, and if I have to vote on **zuma ** I will, you may well get to be tomorrow’s lynching for this action.
Everybody else, so far, is on board with this. **Hockey Monkey ** has agreed that she is happy with the risk that lynching **zuma ** entails.
Apart from you. And if that is your last post for the next few days, you may as well have been recruited.
To the rest of the town.
Hold firm. We lynch zuma tonight and see what happens. Tomorrow we will sort out what to do next with Pleonast.
The whole point of this plan is not only to force the cult to dunk zuma and risk the Avatar, but also to make them start trying to sabotage this plan and force them out to be dunked on the following days after zuma.
If you start trying to vote for people you are not sure if they are Cult or not, or you know they are not because you are a Cultist, it could be considered anti-town.
**Pleonast ** has already stuck a large sign above has head. We can wait until tomorrow to deal with him, lets concentrate on the matter in hand and dunnk zuma first.
Ok, I’m headed to work and likely won’t get a chance to post again before Dusk. If I get killed by Sekham’s revenge or if I don’t make it through the night. My suspicious list, in order of suspicion is:
zuma
Pygmy Rugger
NAF1138
Kyrie Eleison
Queuing
Followed by a possible recruit: Hockey Monkey, Pleonast, etc.
I’m not trying to sabotage the plan, I’m trying to improve it. I’m not trying to get Pleo dunked today, I’m was trying to get him to join the unknowns in zuma’s dunking. After all, he is, in fact, of unknown allegiance.
I admit I’m only rapidly skimming posts, so I may have missed the details of the plan. I thought you didn’t want me voting for zuma. So I decided to vote for another likely target. I’m just as happy on the zuma wagon.
vote zuma
unvote Pygmy
