Mafia V: The Cult of Sekham

FOS (j/k) on you for getting my gender wrong AGAIN! :stuck_out_tongue:

I haven’t been hiding behind anything. I’ve always pointed out that I could potentially be the Prophet, although I’m not. Let’s not forget that if it weren’t for me, Pygmy Rugger’s mistake would have gone un-noticed and we wouldn’t have caught two Cultists.

–FCOD

Why is night 9 more likely then night 6?

Well, that certainly is a point in your favor.

Because by Night 9 all the Monks had been outed during Monkgate. This left no unrecruitable players’ identities unknown to the Cult.

Well, Idle voted to dunk Kat and that bit of pro-town smokescreen certainly paid off for him.

I can see a craftily and quickly played discovery of a fellow scum’s mistake (that happens to take down 2 bretheren) as an aggressive endplay.

That’s true, but you’d think that he would have had every opportunity to work that slip to the Cult advantage. Actually… if he had reported the slip as saying ‘Move the Avatar power to me [Pygmy Rugger]’ and not actually mentioned NAF1138, there is a good chance we would have lynched someone else yesterday making it 3 vs 3 today and a Scum win.

Like I said, a point in his favor, but it certainly doesn’t remove him 100% from suspicion.

[OOG]My grandmother died yesterday, rather expectedly. However I’m going to be working/traveling tomorrow and hanging with my family for a few days. So I’ll be reading and posting as much as possible at my parents’ house, but I certainly won’t be glued to the computer like I am at my house. I won’t miss a vote though, I promise. [OOG]

Sorry for your loss, USCDiver. :frowning:

2 USCDiver
12 Kyrie Eleison
19 FlyingCowOfDoom
21 Queuing
24 ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies - unrecruitable, we know she is good.

I still have seen no good explanation for night 6. Sure, maybe the scum recruited on night 9 as every power role was known. However there was also a better chance that they would be blocked as the number of people who could have been protected went up. It is safe to assume that they just went for some random vanilla. Of the 4 I know what I am, so its down to 3. Of those 3 2 are most likely scum. I still think its Kyrie.

Vote Kyrie

Cookies, one question, you seem to think I am scum because I didn’t want the monks to claim. This is not what I said. What I have always said is that we should not talk about town power roles and should let them claim as they want. If they choose to claim then let them, if they don’t then fine. It is up to them and talking about it does no good. I have held this position since day 1 yet you find it scummy for some reason. I don’t understand why you insist on using this as a reason even though it is not true in the slightest. Unless someone comes up with a better case then the one that I have made against Kyrie I will not be changing my vote.

It was a surprise to me. Cookies is confirmed, while it was at least possible that MHaye was the recruit. I expected Cookies to have been killed last night to leave the suspect pool as large as possible today. Now, instead of five possible recruits, we’re looking at a pool of four.

I tend to see FCoD’s revelation of Pygmy’s slip as exculpatory. It seems too elaborate and too expensive to have been planned, especially so soon after monkgate had failed. I suppose that it’s possible that it was an opportunistic move following an inadvertent slip by Pygmy, but that, too, seems unlikely. Wouldn’t it have been better just to hope that Pygmy’s “oops, wrong board” edit stood unnoticed or unchallenged rather than call attention to it?

EBWOP: That last question wasn’t meant to be rhetorical. It seems that I may be ascribing more meaning to FCoD’s action than others, and particularly, more than Cookies, whom I know to be on the up-and-up. I wonder if I’m overlooking something in my analysis.

So I did a quick skim through Day 1 focusing on the remaining players and their interactions with known scum. To be honest there were so many votes and FOS that it was difficult to draw any conclusions. I’m posting from my iPhone right now but I will try to post more details when I get to my parent’s house tomorrow.

Ohoh, page 2. I guess no one has any real ideas about what to do.

Vote Kyrie Eleison. I think you came to my defense a little too strongly. For all the town knows, I could have seen Pygmy’s genuine mistake, assumed others may have seen it, and sold out my fellow Cultists to cement my Towniness. That didn’t happen, of course, but why are you so quick to defend me?

–FCOD

Well, I didn’t mean to defend you, but I realize it might appear that way. My question was an honest one. It became obvious to me that I, personally, was considering the incident more strongly as evidence in your favor than others were. What you may have perceived as an attempt to sway others in your defense was actually a plea with others to sway me – to show me why I was wrong to do so. That’s why I included the second post to clarify that the question I asked was not rhetorical – I was really hoping that someone would supply an answer.

I still am. It still seems to me that if things were as you hypothesize, you would have been better off hoping that no one else saw it than to knowingly sell two of your own down the river. But maybe not, because here I am considering it possible evidence in your favor. If it was a ploy, it was apparently effective.

Additionally, unlike many previous days, we’re at a point where we can identify cultists through a process of elimination. I don’t think it’s inappropriate to discuss possibly exculpatory evidence at this point.

On a more procedural note, I’ve been unusually busy at work for the last few days, and haven’t really had much time to pay attention to the game. But I expect to have ample time over the weekend to consider and cast a vote.

I am more suspicious of Queuing at the moment than of anyone else, but I need to determine to my own satisfaction that my suspicion isn’t due to the fact that he’s been casting suspicion toward me for days now.

I’m trying to slog through the game and look closely at everyone. It is taking me forever. :frowning:

It is definitely strange being 100% confirmed town at this stage of the game. I didn’t realize how much I have relied on using defensiveness as a catalyst to analysis.

So are you saying that you believe Kyrie was non-Prophet :smiley: original scum on Night 6? Or are you saying that Kyrie was recruited on Night 6?

Because Hockey’s blocking of Kyrie on that night would’ve prevented him from being a (successful) recruiter or the recruitee on that night, right?

There I go with the damn math again.

Hockey only had a [1/n] chance of her Night 6 block on Kyrie being successful.

I’m a bit dubious about the probability that both the Cultists and Hockey would both target Kyrie for their special powers that Night.

Well, I’m at a crossroads here and I think Cookies’ and my decisions today may be the difference in a Town win vs a Cult win.

I’m going to go through the possible iterations of combos of 2 Scum:

Kyrie/Queuing: if Kyrie is Prophet, Queuing gets Town points for voting for him multiple times, possibly can steer the Town against someone else tomorrow securing a cult win

Kyrie/FCOD: if Kyrie is the Prophet, FCOD gets some Town cred for voting for him and we know that FCOD is not the Prophet, but he could still be a Recruit and goes after Queuing tomorrow

FCOD/Queuing: together they lead the charge against an innocent Kyrie Today and win the game with a Town kill tonight.

You ain’t kidding. I’ve been trying, but there’s so much noise in the signal.

So far I’ve skimmed since dawn of Day 7, mostly looking for FCoD’s posts, and occassionally wandering down tangents.

If I had to vote right now, I’d likely go for FCoD. But I’m not going to vote untill the very last minute, in all likelyhood.

Gah, I was hoping for some brilliant insight from you Cookies because I have none. Who, other than FCOD, do you think may be scum?