Personally I am dieing to read the forbidden thread. If there are no spoilers in there I am really curious who they think is the prophet.
Queuing used 428 words. Is he disqualified? 
That same miller said:
A possibility which Queuing neglected to include in his list, and which would explain how they may have identified the Priest and also the obviously missing recruit.
Yesterday, USCDiver and I both had Queuing at the top of our suspect lists. Thinking there were two scum, and seeing that Cookies had already voted for FCoD, I cast my vote for him. USCDiver then voted for Queuing, and FCoD changed his vote from me to Queuing to tie it up. At that time, I could have changed my vote to Queuing, making it three votes for him, and almost certainly eliminating any possibility that I’d be dunked. If I were the Prophet, and Queuing town, why would I not have done so?
Queuing’s dunk choices last night were:
[ul]
[li]USCDiver, who had voted for him the previous day,[/li][li]myself, who had indicated my preference to vote for him, but against whom he’s been building a case for days,[/li][li]Cookies, who had declined to switch her vote from FCoD to Queuing.[/li][/ul]
I don’t envy him his selection. If he kills Cookies, he leaves alive two people who have already indicated that they’ll vote for him. If he kills me, he’s basically got to start from scratch building a case against USCDiver for Cookies, and yesterday, he complained about his perception that USCDiver was trusted by Cookies. At least by killing USCDiver, he can be pretty sure he’s getting rid of someone who would have voted for him, and he’s got a shot at convincing you to vote for me.
But consider my choices, if I were scum. Do you really think that I would kill someone who had only yesterday invited me to join with him in voting against Queuing? Someone who only yesterday said:
I’m sure USCDiver didn’t trust me completely, but I would bet that if it were he and I today, Queuing’s toes would be wet already. And if I were scum, I could have made that happen.
Yes, you can argue that this is all WIFOM, but does that really make sense at this stage? Why would I have sacrificed USCDiver to influence you, Cookies, if I could already count on USCDiver, and could have eliminated whomever I pleased going into the last day? That’s not giving up a bird in the hand for two in the bush, it’s giving up one in the hand for one in the bush!
(423 words, discounting quoted material, so we’re both over.)
In Queuing’s list of Night 6 possibilities:
Kyrie’s quote of Hockey:
It isn’t like Queuing forgot it in his list completely, but a case can be made for downplaying it. Both of these statements say virtually the same thing, Hockey just took the pondering a little farther.
As much as I was eager to run with the circumstantial evidence against Kyrie back when MonkGate was in full swing, my motive was to rally the town to try and sniff out the Prophet, not a deathwish on Kyrie.
Hockey had a 1/n chance of successfully blocking her target on night 6, but what are the chances that her target would actually be on either side of a blockable action? Too slim for my tastes.
Queuing hasn’t voted yet. Is the game over as soon as I vote?
Vote Queuing
No, but I will initate a 24-hour count down from now, so say 7:00 PM EDT tomorrow unless one of you two (basically you) decide to withdraw and change your vote.
Can I just sit here with my fingers in my ears for 24 hours?
Lalalalalalalalalala
I just didn’t expect a decision so quickly as I’m sure you could tell from my Dawn post. But you can do that if you want.
I may be despised for it later, but I want.
I’m beyond saturated with this game, and I feel good about my choice, at least right now. If you and the remaining players feel that it is unfair of me to come to a decision so quickly, I’ll certianly still read what ever else is said and try to stuff whatever remaining nuances I may have missed into my perceptions.
Please don’t read it as a condonation or condemnation of your vote. My intention of the 24-hour countdown at dawn was to allow the votee a chance to argue his innocence because otherwise, any points you make in your voting post could not be retorted, and I’d hate for the game to end on a technicality.
NETA: Since I’m probably going to miss the edit window. If you’d really rather end it now, I’m fine ending the game, I just won’t have time to draft the game end post until sometime tomorrow anyway.
Yeah that’s cool. Retort/refine/water torture away, y’all. 
If you can dish it, I can digest it.
Og never gives you more than you can handle.
What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger.
Sure, end the game. I didn’t think I had much chance anyway. Cookies had already decided that I was scum. This was of course the real reason Kyrie killed USC Diver. So (s)he could do that whole why would I kill that person defense? It was a well played plan Kyrie, congratulations.
Cookie it sucks when it is up to you to decide the game and you did so incorrectly. Trust me I know.
As far as Kyrie’s quote of hockey. I did address that very clearly. You happen to think that Fretful is stupid enough to have self-protected one night, the night result in a no-kill and then not self-protect again. I do not think Fretful is that stupid. In no way did I downplay this.
It went bad at monkgate, and in a severe case of “I told you so” that is also when the believers began to discount anything I said. I remind you all - when you are town never do what the scum want you to. Stupid inability to kill you Kyrie!
Sigh, I can’t give up. We know that she blocked Kyrie. Sure it was 1/n chance. However there is a 50/50 chance that Kyrie is the prophet. So we know the odds of her being on one of those sides.
I ask you: what do you think happened that night? You TRULY believe that Fretful self-protected one night and then for some inexplicable reason she choose not to the next night? Also that the scum, being blocked trying to kill X then went after X again? Why do that? They would think they know who the priest was. The priest would be scared they were found out and the only action reasonable action after that is for the priest to self-protect. Yet you are willing to risk the game on the assumption that Fretful was to stupid to do this?
I ask you: you are the priest. You self-protect. The night ends with no-kill. What would YOU do the next night?
Then ask yourself as scum. You are blocked one night while trying to kill X. Sure you may have been blocked by the miller (Ha! 1/n chance, who would believe that would happen?) but chances are you found the priest. What is the most important thing for the scum to find out in the game? Who the power roles are. How dangerous is the priest once s/he is known? Not very. Sure they can stop a kill but they can’t find scum. Once the inevitable unveiling of an investigative role happens chances are the priest will stop self-protecting and BAM dead priest.
So ask yourself 2 questions:
I am the priest. I self protected on a no-kill night. What do I do the next night?
I am scum. A kill that should have happened didn’t. A found priest? A miller block? What do you do the next night?
Don’t listen to either of our arguments about each other. One of us is lieing. Listen to yourself. Ask yourself what would cookies have done that night 6?
Come on Queuing…you know you want to…
–FCOD
I’m having one of my famous :smack: moments.
When looking back at Night 6 I’ve done a crappy job of taking my new information back with me.
On Night 6, if I’d self-protected, I honestly can’t say what I would’ve done the next night if there happened to have been a no-kill. I certainly wouldn’t rule out protecting someone else, but maybe that’s because I suck. Either way, that argument doesn’t do anything for me.
The 50/50 chance that I have not been keeping foremost in my mind when thinking about Night 6 on the other hand…that one smarts.
Maybe I should just flip a coin at this point, but for all I know, BLaM has already honored the plea to put us all out of our misery.
Ok, fine, maybe the priest wouldn’t have self protected the next night.
What about the 2nd question?
What would you do if your kill didn’t happen? Go for the same person? Think you knew something now? If the latter, how dangerous is what you know? I am assuming that you agree with the knowledge you would have (that the person you killed was the priest?). Really how dangerous is the priest, once know to scum?
Even if that argument does nothing for you. I am not asking you to deal in certainties. I am asking you to sit down and think about how you would have played a role that you don’t have. I realize this is a lot to ask, as it means looking at the game from a completely different view point. I am asking you not to be certain about anything. There is only 1 thing you can be certain about:
What ever name you put in blue wins the game for 1 side.
So I am asking you what is more LIKELY. Of course you can’t rule out protecting someone. When that wine is in front of you it is hard not to take a sip. I am asking you to think about what you would do if you were the priest, you self-protected. Chances are (because remember that whole 1/n thing is basically no chance, and not good enough odds to worry about) the no-kill was because of your direct action. So know you think “the scum know I am the priest now. That means they will go after me again as they want me dead. Or will they? I too know that they know who I am so I can now protect someone else <remembering that only 2 people had claimed, me as a lowly vanilla and hockey monkey, thanks Kyrie ;)>and maybe block them 2 times. Of course the person who I protect might be scum which would suck, but hey they could be any other of the good power roles too. Of course the scum know that I know that they know that I am the priest and may assume that I am going to protect someone else, so I must protect myself”
And so forth.
The other thing you should be asking yourself is: When and how is the priest/doctor role most useful to town?
I would say it is most important when a very important town role is known and in trouble. IMO the most important town roles are investigative roles. This is when a doctor/priest should risk sacrificing themselves. Or do you think the priest plays a more important role at a different point in the game?
The WIFOM game should only be played by the priest once they are revealed to teh scum (however that happens) and an investigative role is also revealed IMO.
Damn you went blue.
Sigh.
Can I rescind the whole end the game thing? Give cookies the 24 hours to think not about what Kyrie and I say about each other. Instead think about Night 6, what happened, and why. Think about what you would do in the shoes of the roles that play a part in that night. Remember only 2 people had claimed by that time - I was a vanilla citizen, Hockey Monkey as the miller.
Cookies, you’re being misled. Fretful Porpentine didn’t have to self-protect that night. The Priest role is immune from recruitment.
More generally, what Queuing left out of his list is the possibility that the cult tried and failed to recruit an unrecruitable player. That’s what I was trying to get at, and I’m pretty sure it’s what Hockey meant too.