So on night 6, against all accepted play, the scum tried to recruit? This is what you think happened on night 6 Cookies?
I am not trying to misled you. I am asking you to think about night 6. Think about what is most likely to have happened based on the information we have. The information we have about night 6 is as follows:
No one died
No one was recruited
Kyrie was blocked by the miller.
This is it. Those 3 pieces of information are all we have. Around those 3 we have the following actors:
A priest
A miller
A disciple
A prophet.
Those are the 4 roles that could have an effect on Night 6. Keeping in mind Night 7 the priest was killed. Manipulate those 3 pieces of information with those 4 actors and the following possibilities:
A priest successful protect
A disciple successful protect
scum fucking with us
A successful Miller block
An unsuccessful scum recruitment.
I’m not sure I understand what you mean, or even if this was addressed to me, but the last thing I want is to get into a pointless argument with you now. I think you mean that it’s possible Hockey’s hypothesis was incorrect, and that Fretful may have simply been the night-kill target rather than a recruit target. I don’t disagree with that. I wasn’t asserting that Hockey was correct, just that Queuing had not included the possibility that she had pointed out. I chose to quote her only because it was her observation, and she deserved the credit for it.
I will confess that the fact that Queuing left it out makes me wonder if it might be the true explanation. We can be almost certain that there was a failed recruitment, and it could only have happened on one of two nights.
I know it’s little consolation coming from me right now, but you’ve made the right choice. I’m not as worried about anything Queuing can say as I am that you’ll suffer from buyer’s remorse between now and tomorrow evening. This 24-hour delay is quite frustrating; regardless of the outcome, I’m going to be happy when this game is over.
I’m back at work today, but still not feeling 100%. I may very well end up needing most of the time to re-hash things yet again. As soon as I open my work email, I can very well get sucked in until I get home around 4pm Pacific.
Hehe. I would just like to say that even though my decision is made I am in hell with you already. I don’t want to have played another game of Mafia all the way to the damn end (which must mean something) and lose again :).
I’m trying to give my head a rest from the metric assload of data contained in this thread. I’m also distracting myself a bit with the Firefly game, but I think that is healthy. I don’t want to burn out on this game, as I fear I came close to doing yesterday. I promise to vote within a day or so, with the benefit of refreshed eyes, hopefully.
The last post in a short series involving allegations of perfect knowledge going back and forth between NAF and Zeriel, and which reads as a defense of NAF in hindsight.
This exchange with Hazelnut resonates with me, considering how Kyrie was able to similarly divert the wind from my sails when attempting to suspect him. As such, it seems worth noting. And guess what…it indirectly involves Idle.
I must say Cookies, regardless of what name you end up putting down, cheers to you for the amount of work you are putting into it. Kyrie and I are lucky. We know the truth and have nothing to do but wait :).
If anyone is actually trying to read this mess, be forewarned that I’ve gotten a bit sloppy as to putting the links/comments in the right order. It made sense to me when I made the notes, and that’s all that matters. At some point I also stopped trying to be diplomatic in how I paraphrased things, and just assume that Kyrie is scum in how I interpreted everything that he said & some things said about/around him.
I also pay particular attention to interaction (be it direct or indirect) with now-known scum.
I’ll endeavor to wear the same filters once I get around to Queuing.
Though it was (allegedly) a mistake between Zeriel and Queuing, both of these posts are interesting regardless of which player you inject into this post, where Idle risks exalting fellow scum NAF and Kyrie as giving him a townie feel because he’s also extending the same exaltation to one actual townie.
Eventually (possibly even Days later, can you tell I’m getting tired of this little exercise?) Kyrie retaliates with a vote against Diggit, and FOS towards Idle, alluding to them being in possible collusion.
I actually remember doing a double take on this post. Why so protective of FCoD? Then I remembered the “Believer” reading, but still it seemed like an arbitrary demonstration of a lot of faith in FCoD. But now in hindsight, Kyrie had every reason to keep FCoD (an established Prophet candidate) alive as long as possible.
If the recruitment hadn’t already been wasted (but I believe it had been) perhaps the time spent wondering if the Prophet would be killed by the Avatar would come close to pain and torment of the game-ending cross that I currently carry. But then, if the recruitment was still available to him at this time, I highly doubt Kyrie would be voting for any of his brethren. http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8913555&postcount=3643
Kyrie says “Kill zuma now, and distract yourselves from the Prophet Hunt.”
