Mafia V: The Cult of Sekham

I asked myself this in M3, and during this game. And I also suspect it is for “not good” reasons. I seem to come across as scummy by default, I’m scatter-brained, and can have a tendency to be “fluffy”. But since you’re basically the antithesis of me, maybe our individual longevities have different causes…

Indeed, I would have had a lot of fun with that. I liked to use this game as a bit of a creative outlet.

I don’t really see how longevity is a bad thing. For instance, in your case here, Cookies, you’re a power role, and making it so deep into the game before having to claim, and never getting Night killed could mean you did well. OTOH, by the cult deliberately choosing not to kill you, that might mean they didn’t kill you because they never felt threatened by you. However, with your end game analysis there, maybe future scum will feel differently…?

As for Queuing, I think it’s related to your style, that even if you do have a good idea, you ruffle a lot of feathers, which, in turn, makes it a lot of noise. Plus, both times you were known to be a vanilla townie from fairly early on. What’s their incentive to kill you?

Nearly forgot! Many of you aren’t aware of what would have happened had I not been killed when I was.

One of the things that got me killed was the way I was bouncing off the walls, waiting for the sun to come up on Day 4 (note to self: singing Air Supply will get you killed, and with good reason). I was bouncing off the walls because I had Big News: 1) I was the Oracle, and 2) Hockey Monkey was, without a doubt, 100% certified scum!

Except, as it turns out, she wasn’t.

That day, I wrote out An Oracle’s Tale and posted it on my web page, making the URL available to anyone in the forbidden thread who wanted some spoilers. Much of this is very innacurate in retropect, but it’s how it looked at the time:

Man…if I hadn’t have been killed that night, things would’ve gotten ug-lee. I’d have claimed Oracle and demanded HM be killed. After all, she was obviously scum. When she came up as being honest in her roleclaim (just a tad shady)…wow…thing’s would’ve been very bad for me. :slight_smile:

ETA: If anyone is interested, there is a little bit more info posted after An Oracle’s Taleavailable here.

I know I am…volatile. I tried to switch that in this game as I was unsure of how helpful it was to the town, but as we know I was unsuccessful. I was genuinely annoyed at Sachertorte, and truth be told, now that I have read the forbidden thread (not the scum boards yet though) I am more annoyed. The subs in this game pissed me off. It came very close to breaking the game, and the only thing that saved it was another action that came very close to breaking the game, that is Pygmy’s errors. I know many of you probably think I was off base in some of my comments to sachertorte, and while I am sorry that he took them personally (something I can’t imagine doing all you being just screen names you know?), I am not exactly sorry for saying them. ETA: I am more annoyed because he was still able and willing to follow along a lot in the forbidden thread. To me that is just bad form. If you still wanted to play the game why quit and hurt your team even more then you already had?

But the willingness of the scum to leave me alone, particularly when I had 2 of you scummy people nailed for a few Days in a row, just makes me wonder what I am doing wrong. Not until the end did I really think I was in any danger of being lynched, and I thought it was over when it was between Kyrie and myself as it was fairly clear (as demonstrated by the initial vote) that Cookies believed I was scum. So I suppose I am just looking for some sort of feedback for if/when I play again. Thanks.

To whoever it was that asked me about Night Seven and my choice to investigate Sachertorte. I didn’t want to answer that question at the time because the answer would have dragged BlaM in, and he could not say anything without confirming my claim. The reason is that BlaM picked up the wrong bolded name. I was investigating USCDiver.

He did offer to think of a way to make it right, and I declined on the grounds that the result I got gave me new information - information that made a lot of difference to my actions during Monkgate…

By the way, what was it that pissed off ArizonaTeach so much?

Good game all. Sorry I had to step out so early. I’ve been watching closely since I left (and wishing I could have stayed!) I just moved across the country, and once things settle down (several months), I’d love to play again (of course, with a better feel for the time requirements of the game.)

I have to say, I felt rather uneasy during that whole thing, because you shouldn’t have been involved except for my screw up. I’m really curious how it would have turned out if you hadn’t gotten involved.

Before he left, I discussed things for him and it seemed to me that all he really wanted to say on the topic publicly was already said in thread, at least, that was the impression with which I was left. Thus, I would prefer to leave it up to his discretion if he’s still out there watching.

I do hope he will clarify. I feel like it is largly my fault he left. Him leaving is actually the only reason I didn’t vote for Kat Day 2, I felt guilty that I had driven AZ away.

Oh, I thought you didn’t vote for her because, well… you were scum.

Nope my plan would have been to pick up and vote for AZ again. But he left and I felt guilty.

:wink: You read Night Nine yet fully at the scum boards? :stuck_out_tongue:

I think you’re a great player. You make things interesting.

Strike that. I meant Day Nine.

So I’m dying to know – what was the rationale behind trying to recruit me? (I haven’t been able to access the scum boards.) In return, I bring you:

The Priest’s Tale

I decided early on that I was going to try to outguess the scum rather than self-protecting. In retrospect, this may have been a mistake, but then again, it was more fun, and that’s kind of the point, isn’t it?

I self-protected on the first two nights, since I had no idea who was scum and who wasn’t.

On the third night, I protected Hockey Monkey since she was the only lead I had.

The next day, after the Oracle was killed, I went into a flurry of note-taking and re-reading, trying to find the Apprentice. And I almost – ALMOST – got it right that night. My two top picks were SnakesCatLady and USCDiver, both of whom caught my eye when they “shouted out” Hal’s name in apparent fluff posts shortly after he made his “Yo, Oracle, over here” post. SCL made several impassioned pleas for people to stop talking about Oracle / Apprentice stuff on Day 1, which made me think she might be the Apprentice; on the other hand, USCD made a couple of comments about how he wanted to wait for his scumdar to improve before he committed himself, which SCREAMED Apprentice to me. Then, too, USCD expressed moderate suspicions of MHaye at the end of Day 2 and reiterated them, much more strongly, at the beginning of Day 3, so I thought MHaye might be someone he had investigated overnight.

So I protected USCD, and damn, did I want to smash my head against the keyboard in the morning. I protected him on Nights 5 and 6, too, and when there was no kill on Night 6 I was SURE I had executed a successful block. (Which I had, in a sense, but I got way too cocky because I thought I knew what happened, and I was very wrong.)

On Night 7, I had a dilemma. USCD had made a post which made it clear that he did not know all the rules surrounding the Apprentice role, so I decided there was no way he was really the Apprentice. However, if I had blocked him, the scum might be under the impression that he was the Priest or Disciple instead, and try to kill him again. OTOH, I thought he was a citizen, and I figured we could lose a citizen more easily than we could lose a power role, so I decided to protect one of the exposed power roles. I didn’t think the scum would go after the Martyr if they didn’t know what he did, and I didn’t think they’d go after the Disciple because they’d figure he would be self-protecting. That left Hockey Monkey and Zeriel. I went with HM because I was hoping to prevent a recruitment (I did not think the scum had recruited on Night Six, but I thought for sure they’d be thinking of recruiting the Alchemist now that there had been so much talk about it.)

I should, of course, have self-protected, but it hadn’t even occurred to me that they might have tried to recruit me on the previous night. I knew for sure that they hadn’t tried to kill me, since I hadn’t been self-protecting, so I thought I was under deep cover.

So yeah, in retrospect I did almost nothing right, but at least I got to use my power for good :slight_smile:

I’m reading the scum boards right now.

It turns out that Idle noticed my player writeups on Night 5, and worked out what I was doing with them… then didn’t believe that.

Thanks Idle. :stuck_out_tongue:

We thought we had you dead to rights as the apprentice. I don’t remember why anymore.

I’ve had a few guilty twinges about it myself. In my world a joke’s only funny if everyone laughs and a game is only fun if everyone has a good time. I’ve worried about some of these games, and mentioned it in the forbidden threads occasionally, but after the game I’ve never seen any continuing hostilities. Maybe I’m just missing it and some of the players who don’t re-up for the next game actually do have hard feelings. That would bother me.

Enjoy,
Steven

applause

Bravo to all, well played. And thanks very much to Blaster Master for running the game.