Mafia V: The Cult of Sekham

No, I don’t think we have more than one at the most – I’m about 99% sure that Clockwork Jackal wasn’t doing anything of the sort, because I can’t see someone fictionalizing her reason for leaving the game. All I’m saying is that I think there’s a slightly higher chance that either Nava or AZTeach is scum than that any other randomly chosen player is scum right now, because I can think of two plausible reasons why scum might be more likely to bow out of the game early than anybody else, one innocent and one distinctly Machiavellian. And in the absence of any other clues whatsoever, I’m going to try voting with that slightly higher chance.

While I can see why a player might decide to take that tact, it falls apart for me in one key area. Let’s say the scum eventually win – the person who made that move on Day One will be at best a minor footnote in the victory. The crowd would be much more likely to say “Oh yeah, I forgot he was in the game early on” than “Hey, how about that brilliant move by so-n-so”.

You know, I kind of get what you’re saying with this, but I’d like to suggest a counter-possibility.

It has seemed to me that it is actually more time-consuming to be town than to be scum. As uninformed town, you really have to read everything, or near enough, to maximize your chances of locating scum. As scum, you can browse, skip over conversations that don’t seem valuable to you - you certainly don’t have to close-read every single post in an effort to locate the bad guys, since you know who the bad guys are.

Just a theory, and I have no idea its validity, but there it is.

I am a bit uncomfortable with how fast the wagon against **Mtgman ** has grown, but I have to look at the time of day and how much longer there is until the deadline, and well, it’s kind of now or never, huh? That said, I still feel that **Mtgman ** is the best choice for today, so will place my vote there and hope it is right.

Vote Mtgman

Oh dear, now you’re confusing me :slight_smile: You might have a point, darn it!

Just in case anyone is slacking, the sun sets in about 13 minutes…

I was away all of yesterday. It looks like quite the bandwagon has formed. It doesn’t really matter whom I vote for at this point except to help leave a paper trail for later review by fellow townies. I encourage any other townies who have an old “useless” vote to take a moment (there’s not really time toDay, but in the future) to switch their vote to their 2nd choice – with stated reasons, as always – to help us pick through the noise later on (since, I’m guessing, many people will just look for those posts with votes.)

unvote Idle Thoughts
vote SnakesCatLady

Others have voiced the points I make below (and some other points, like SCL’s over-defensiveness), but since SCL has claimed I have twisted her words (with I don’t think I have and which I do not intend to do), I’ll be more careful by quoting:

Yes, I want you to repeat things. Yes, I want to make the thread longer. I have no idea what your thoughts are regarding any of the dusts-ups we’ve seen (and we’ve seen a lot of them.) I have no information on you at all except that I know you’re reading the thread carefully. I’ve never played as scum, but that seems like a sound scum approach (and others have said the same.) In the off chance that you’re a townie, you aren’t being useful to the town if you aren’t putting your thoughts out there.

While a player acting like scum makes for a good vote, it’s Christmas (err… Nairumas) when there’s a player who is acting like scum and who isn’t doing much to help town (in the case that the scum-read was wrong). That’s part of why I can move my vote off someone like Idle Thoughts – I don’t trust him, but he’s definitely going to give the town plenty to chew on, so I can just be sure to watch his actions and opinions tomorrow and beyond.

I wouldn’t worry too much about what I’m saying, since my vote doesn’t get you dunked and since this post will go poof in the Night and be forgotten. But, how are you choosing the members of your friend/foe lists if not through their (content-filled) posts. If you were townie, you would (I would think) be eager to help your fellow townies making their own lists by voicing your opinions, even if they overlap with others’ opinions.
Anyway, I’m reading for a drink. Is that bar open yet? Wait, wha? No bar in this town! Hmmm… I bet there’s a secret bar somewhere…

Pssst! Fourth building on the right from the High Temple. Back door, knock twice, tell 'em Hal sent you. Keep it to yerself.

Hey guys! Fourth building on the right! Come on over!

Oops! :slight_smile:

Saunters off nonchalantly in the general direction of the High Temple, drifting off to the right a bit.

[Sotto voce]

Sheesh, all that arguing sure gives a man a powerful thirst.

[/Sotto voce]

starts following Pasta secret bar-wards

pauses and reflects that it’s probably not a good idea to take the word of someone unconfirmed by any higher authority, particularly when it leads you into a dark and dank place

decides she doesn’t care if her eyes get stabbed out, as long as she gets a drink first

follows HazelNutCoffee

Hope this place has margaritas. And catnip - this psychic cat is driving me insane.

Sorry, this is probably going to be quick. I’m going to double check the vote count and see if I can’t get the day closing post done. If there’s any questions, I’ll have to get to those later tonight.

** ArizonaTeach ** (4) - NAF1138, Autolycus, Mtgman, Kyrie Eleison
** Autolycus ** (1) - ArizonaTeach
** Captain Klutz ** (0) -
** Clockwork Jackal / Kyrie Eleison ** (2) - MadTheSwine, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
** ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies ** (0) -
** DiggitCamara ** (1) - Queuing
** fluiddruid ** (0) -
** FlyingCowOfDoom ** (0) -
** Fretful Porpentine ** (0) -
** Hal Briston ** (1) - zuma
** HazelNutCoffee ** (0) -
** Hockey Monkey ** (0) -
** Idle Thoughts ** (0) -
** MadTheSwine ** (0) -
** Malacandra ** (0) -
** MHaye ** (0) -
** MonkeyMensch ** (0) -
** Mtgman ** (8) - Scuba_Ben, storyteller0910, Hal Briston, DiggitCamara, Zeriel, Pleonast, MHaye, Hockey Monkey
** NAF1138 ** (1) - FlyingCowOfDoom
** Nava ** (1) - Fretful Porpentine
** Pasta ** (2) - Idle Thoughts, SnakesCatLady
** Pleonast ** (0) -
** Queuing ** (1) - sachertorte
** sachertorte ** (3) - MonkeyMensch, fluiddruid, USCDiver
** Scuba_Ben ** (0) -
** SnakesCatLady ** (1) - Pasta
** storyteller0910 ** (0) -
** USCDiver ** (0) -
** Zeriel ** (0) -
** Zuma ** (3) - Malacandra, Captain Klutz, HazelNutCoffee

** Voter - Action - Votee - Post **
** Pleonast ** - Vote - ** USCDiver ** - 221
** DiggitCamara ** - Vote - ** ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies ** - 225
** MadTheSwine ** - Vote - ** Clockwork Jackal ** - 244
** Pleonast ** - Unvote - ** USCDiver ** - 248
** DiggitCamara ** - Unvote - ** ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies ** - 251
** storyteller0910 ** - Vote - ** MadTheSwine ** - 281
** NAF1138 ** - Vote - ** Clockwork Jackal ** - 344
** FlyingCowOfDoom ** - Vote - ** NAF1138 ** - 383
** Pleonast ** - Vote - ** MadTheSwine ** - 387
** sachertorte ** - Vote - ** FlyingCowOfDoom ** - 388
** NAF1138 ** - Unvote - ** Clockwork Jackal ** - 394
** SnakesCatLady ** - Vote - ** sachertorte ** - 403
** Pleonast ** - Unvote - ** MadTheSwine ** - 405
** Pleonast ** - Vote - ** sachertorte ** - 405
** sachertorte ** - Unvote - ** FlyingCowOfDoom ** - 416
** Kyrie Eleison ** - Vote - ** Hal Briston ** - 531
** Zuma ** - Vote - ** Hal Briston ** - 544
** Malacandra ** - Vote - ** zuma ** - 546
** Zeriel ** - Vote - ** NAF1138 ** - 555
** ArizonaTeach ** - Vote - ** Zeriel ** - 555
** Pleonast ** - Unvote - ** sachertorte ** - 573
** Pleonast ** - Vote - ** Malacandra ** - 573
** ArizonaTeach ** - Unvote - ** Zeriel ** - 580
** ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies ** - Vote - ** Pleonast ** - 581
** NAF1138 ** - Vote - ** ArizonaTeach ** - 585
** ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies ** - Unvote - ** Pleonast ** - 612
** Hockey Monkey ** - Vote - ** Pleonast ** - 628
** Idle Thoughts ** - Vote - ** Pasta ** - 642
** HazelNutCoffee ** - Vote - ** MadTheSwine ** - 647
** MonkeyMensch ** - Vote - ** sachertorte ** - 664
** Pasta ** - Vote - ** Idle Thoughts ** - 669
** Queuing ** - Vote - ** DiggitCamara ** - 670
** Fretful Porpentine ** - Vote - ** Autolycus ** - 677
** Autolycus ** - Vote - ** NAF1138 ** - 683
** ArizonaTeach ** - Vote - ** Autolycus ** - 693
** Captain Klutz ** - Vote - ** zuma ** - 695
** fluiddruid ** - Vote - ** sachertorte ** - 702
** sachertorte ** - Vote - ** Queuing ** - 708
** Zeriel ** - Unvote - ** NAF1138 ** - 717
** Zeriel ** - Vote - ** Kyrie Eleison ** - 717
** ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies ** - Vote - ** Kyrie Eleison ** - 750
** Autolycus ** - Vote - ** ArizonaTeach ** - 767
** Scuba_Ben ** - Vote - ** Mtgman ** - 783
** Autolycus ** - Unvote - ** NAF1138 ** - 792
** Mtgman ** - Vote - ** ArizonaTeach ** - 808
** DiggitCamara ** - Vote - ** Autolycus ** - 816
** storyteller0910 ** - Unvote - ** MadTheSwine ** - 824
** storyteller0910 ** - Vote - ** Mtgman ** - 824
** Kyrie Eleison ** - Unvote - ** Hal Briston ** - 847
** Kyrie Eleison ** - Vote - ** ArizonaTeach ** - 847
** SnakesCatLady ** - Unvote - ** sachertorte ** - 855
** SnakesCatLady ** - Vote - ** Pasta ** - 855
** Hal Briston ** - Vote - ** Mtgman ** - 856
** Hockey Monkey ** - Unvote - ** Pleonast ** - 862
** DiggitCamara ** - Unvote - ** Autolycus ** - 866
** DiggitCamara ** - Vote - ** MadTheSwine ** - 866
** DiggitCamara ** - Unvote - ** MadTheSwine ** - 867
** DiggitCamara ** - Vote - ** Mtgman ** - 867
** HazelNutCoffee ** - Unvote - ** MadTheSwine ** - 868
** HazelNutCoffee ** - Vote - ** zuma ** - 868
** USCDiver ** - Vote - ** sachertorte ** - 869
** Zeriel ** - Unvote - ** Kyrie Eleison ** - 870
** Zeriel ** - Vote - ** Mtgman ** - 870
** Pleonast ** - Unvote - ** Malacandra ** - 871
** Pleonast ** - Vote - ** Mtgman ** - 871
** Mhaye ** - Vote - ** Mtgman ** - 874
** Fretful Porpentine ** - Unvote - ** Autolycus ** - 875
** Fretful Porpentine ** - Vote - ** Nava ** - 875
** Hockey Monkey ** - Vote - ** Mtgman ** - 884
** Pasta ** - Unvote - ** Idle Thoughts ** - 887
** Pasta ** - Vote - ** SnakesCatLady ** - 887

It was a long day. The paranoia that had begun the day only grew as fingers were pointed at virtually every town member. A glimmer of hope lasted for a few moments as townsfolk mentioned rumors of a Priest from a neighboring village; another townfolk mentioned the existence of a possible Oracle. Quickly discussion was turned away from the task at hand and toward discovering these townfolk; surely they would be invaluable to the search. But quickly, a voice of reason settled over the town as they realized they would only make the Cultists’ task easier at hand.

In time, as the town settled upon their task again, one of those voices came under great suspicion and, ultimately, condemnation. His name was Mtgman. Quickly he was ceased by the citizens, shackled, and led up the steps to the pool of Nairu’s Blessed Waters. A silent prayer was said among the masses and he was pushed in…

Alas, he did NOT sink; he remained upon the surface of the water. The spirits of the citizens rose, as he was dragged in quiet contemplation from the pool to the makeshift stake. He glared quietly through the crowd as he was tied up and a fire was kindled beneath his feet. Just as the fire began to consume his flesh, he said in stated calmness, “Your faith shall consume you all; Nairuvians and Sekhamites alike.”

Mtgman, a Non-Believer has been burned at the stake.


The Night will end at 4:15 PM on Tuesday, or when all Night instructions have been received.

Also, I have not had time to clean out my PMs yet, so if you don’t get through, either e-mail me or try again after I get a chance to do that tonight. I will post an updated player list then.

Damnit!

Well, we have a long night ahead of us, it seems. pours self a rum and coke Sorry, Mtgman, we hardly knew you.

I shall spend the night reflecting upon the last couple of days worth of discussion. With my rum and coke. And pray to Nairu I survive the night with eyeballs and heart intact.

Oops. Apparantly Mtgman did mean well after all. Sorry about that.

I’ll be at the bar – I mean, the High Temple.

You’re refusing alcohol so you can go pray? There’s a scum tell if I ever saw one. :wink:

Have you been in that little room off to the right? Ought to check it out. :cool:

R.I.P. Mtgman. You had some far off ideas but it’s apparent now that your motives were pure.

And I’m not much of a drinker…I’ll take a Coke, though, if they have it.