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Well, in that case, I need to think about things a bit. How about I come back tomorrow evening? I don’t like to talk business in the daytime, it’s too hot what with all the buring of heretics. Besides, what a show! I just want to sit back and enjoy the screams.
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NAF, don’t let him sucker you into that Brutus model. It doesn’t even have cup-holders. It’s strickly a war machine. And the horses for it take high-octane hay. Just sayin.
So, let’s see… had zuma been scum I would in fact have been lending weight to the supposition of my own scumminess, so since it turns out he was on the side of the angels, then…?
To clarify, I can’t imagine why the scum would kill someone who was already seen as scummy by enough townsfolk that it might have gone somewhere. I look now to people who haven’t received any suspicion to date, just to see.
Otherwise, not much has changed about my positions.
Agreed, while I am sorry to lose zuma, it seems like an odd play. Looking for power roles? Or, more likely, their other choices had already pointed the finger at cultists, so they wanted a clean kill? (This has been a driving choice between the Day One kill in every game I’ve observed.)
Zuma? really?
I find this most puzzling. Why Zuma?
Just a reminder, Blaster Master stated earlier that descriptions of the death scene are not intended to imply who was responsible for the killing. That said, my opinion is that it was a cultist kill. Bravo, to the Crusader for (I’m assuming) choosing not to kill tonight. I think skipping the first night was the wisest move since there is so little information. At least we didn’t wake up this morning to two dead townies. Plus, if the crusader skipped last night then there is a 100% chance of a crusader kill (barring all that other stuff), tonight. Much easier for the town to digest.
On zuma, I agree that the target is likely so that very little information is revealed to us. But the strange thing is zuma actually garnered votes, which one would think would be a reason to keep zuma in the game. Perhaps the scum thought the reasons for the zuma votes were weak and zuma made a better candidate for the night kill than another non-poster, such as Malacandra (who was tied to zuma in the suspicious actions). Malacandra received fewer votes than zuma despite it being Malacandra’s vote reasoning (and zuma’s lack of reaction to it) that caused the zuma votes. I find this strange. Why did zuma garner more votes than malacandra?
I think I can understand the reasons for the zuma kill over Malacandra from the perspective that malacandra looks more suspicious, but I can’t reconcile that observation against the fact that zuma received more votes than malacandra!
What am I missing here?
On zuma, I agree that the target is likely so that very little information is revealed to us. But the strange thing is zuma actually garnered votes, which one would think would be a reason to keep zuma in the game. Perhaps the scum thought the reasons for the zuma votes were weak and zuma made a better candidate for the night kill than another non-poster, such as Malacandra (who was tied to zuma in the suspicious actions). Malacandra received fewer votes than zuma despite it being Malacandra’s vote reasoning (and zuma’s lack of reaction to it) that caused the zuma votes. I find this strange. Why did zuma garner more votes than malacandra?
I think I can understand the reasons for the zuma kill over Malacandra from the perspective that malacandra looks more suspicious, but I can’t reconcile that observation against the fact that zuma received more votes than malacandra!
What am I missing here?
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So, let’s see… had zuma been scum I would in fact have been lending weight to the supposition of my own scumminess, so since it turns out he was on the side of the angels, then…?
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Much of my suspicion of you Yesterday was due to the offhand way you voted for zuma and his response. So, logically his being cleared should indeed lead me to decide you are a Believer (or at least, not a Cultist).
But, you might have persuaded your fellow Cult members to kill zuma to engender precisely that reaction in those who had suspected you.
I’m sure you can see where I’m going, so I’ll stop before I outhink myself. Yes I am less suspicious of you, but it’s not going to disappear.
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On zuma, I agree that the target is likely so that very little information is revealed to us. But the strange thing is zuma actually garnered votes, which one would think would be a reason to keep zuma in the game. Perhaps the scum thought the reasons for the zuma votes were weak and zuma made a better candidate for the night kill than another non-poster, such as Malacandra (who was tied to zuma in the suspicious actions). Malacandra received fewer votes than zuma despite it being Malacandra’s vote reasoning (and zuma’s lack of reaction to it) that caused the zuma votes. I find this strange. Why did zuma garner more votes than malacandra?
I think I can understand the reasons for the zuma kill over Malacandra from the perspective that malacandra looks more suspicious, but I can’t reconcile that observation against the fact that zuma received more votes than malacandra!
What am I missing here?
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I can’t speak for those who voted zuma, but I know why I would have voted him before Malacandra if Mtgman had not raised his profile.
Either Malacandra was Cult or he was not. If he was then zuma very likely was. If Malacandra was not Cult, zuma might still have been Cult. So (on the then available evidence) zuma was slightly more likely to be a Cult member than Malacandra.
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I also note that our crusader is either hedging his percentages, unsure of his own scumdar, or the psychopath is now loose.
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My first impression from the color provided, that whole “was the ritual different” thing, was that either this was the work of someone trying to pass it off as cultists (i.e just the Crusader), or that possibly the Crusader and the cultists had chosen the same target. If it’s the first, it would mean that the cultists were blocked, or chose to recruit, or just chose not to kill (that last being highly unlikely, I would think.) I can’t immediately think of any significance that both having chose the same target would have.
But then, Blaster had previously said that we shouldn’t take anything from the color, so, nominally, it means nothing, and I just want it to mean something.