Works fine for me. Are you clicking on the icon? It doesn’t work if you click on the text.
I opened a poll thread in IMHO, and there was a button to view the poll (it was a public poll) that I clicked before voting, but after I voted, I couldn’t find the button anymore. Am I missing something?
Then why have the clickable text at all? I wouldn’t call that something that “works fine.”
I’m not picking on you here, Peter Morris; it’s the general direction of this thread (and the other ATMB threads about the redesign) that seems weird to me. This “re-skinning,” or whatever we’re calling it, is a disaster. It seems to me that the best course of action would be to roll back the changes, but instead we’re hearing, “it’s just aesthetic issues, you’ll get used to it” or “ABC doesn’t work anymore, do XYZ instead” or “everything will be fine if you install BigT’s userscript.”
Apparently this is happening to make the board work better on mobile devices, but it is now unusable on my iPad. And—not to take anything away from BigT’s impressive scripting skills—I don’t think I should have to install a browser extension and a userscript to make this site endurable when it was perfectly okay before.
I’m wondering if this is simply a matter of the board administrators not wanting to lose face by admitting that they messed up.
I’m trying to install it on tampermonkey, and nothing is happening.
Nvm, it started working now. But now I realize I can’t find an edit button anywhere.
I appreciate that you guys are trying to make the forums more readable/accessible for phone users, but I’ve now tried several times with my desktop and laptop (the only devices I use for browsing web) and using firefox and chrome browsers, and the forums are not as readable for me on these. Whatever you’ve done to the fonts/colors is creating terrible eyestrain for me, which leads to headaches, so I can view the forums for only 5 - 10 minutes and then have to quit. If it stays this way, I won’t be around as much anymore, though admittedly I’m more of a lurker so no big loss.
I haven’t read the whole thread, so I don’t know if this has been mentioned already, but on my iPhone, in Safari, posts no longer hyphenate when wrapping. That makes it very hard to read, as the post ends up looking like this:
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I just tried it on my iPhone and I get the same thing you do.
Well I just found out that a change to my sig becomes retroactive! Changed it to “Please stop autosig” after I had not unclicked it before posting and the the last thread retroactively put that as my sig! That was fun!
We still haven’t heard why the powers that be won’t simply take the ~5 mouseclicks it takes to turn on the ability for users to choose which style they prefer. If the idea is actually to attract new readers and keep current ones, doesn’t it seem like ~5 mouseclicks is a good use of time for all the people who don’t like/can’t use the current theme? And all those who do like it can have it as the default.
It’s really not all that hard to do.
Given the organizational structure of the powers that be, decision making plus execution moves more slowly than a board run by a different type of organization.
You mean like after you post? It should look like this. (Wait a second, as I have to post this and edit my post to show the edit button.)
ETA: Okay, here it is. See the pencil icon here?.
I have now run this board on every device I own. Looks great on the iPhone. Totally unusable on the iPad, Fire and desktop without the fixes BigT provided. So a near-total disaster all around. If TPTB want to kill this board for good, they’ve found an excellent way to do it.
Interesting. For me it is a total disaster on the iPhone. It really depends which iPhone you have it seems. I have the SE. It’s reasonable on the iPad. If I’m off my computer, I use the iPad, because the iPhone SE version of the page is so terrible. It was fine on both devices with the old version.
Honest question: what would be the harm in just turning on that option now? Not every action needs to go all the way up and down the chain of command. Do what makes sense and if TPTB ultimately decide that it is bad for some reason, they could just turn it back off again.
I just presume they won’t want to actually take the time to go through everything for just a small change. They wouldn’t touch other small changes in the past, either.
So I’m trying to lay out the biggest stuff that absolutely needs to be fixed.
I’ve been a usability and interaction designer for 15 years, and I see this all the time. The needs of ‘branding’ override usability. The idea of everyone having their own look and feel just won’t do. Decisions about usability get made by people with no experience using the product, little understanding of the needs of the people who do, and with no training in usability, because such people often think that UI design is just a matter of opinion and theirs is as valid as anyone else’s. Dunning-Krueger is strong in this field.
It is only when customers push back hard that changes get made. And even then, no one wants to get stuck with the blame so a ‘change process’ arises, meetings need to be held, consensus has to be formed - by the same people who made the bad decisions in the first place.
I don’t know the management structure at the Reader. So I could be completely wrong in this particular instance, but I have seen this pattern a thousand times before.
I think it’s pretty clear by now that the consensus of opinion in the two running threads on this topic is that this new look is a complete failure and most strongly dislike it for good reasons of both appearance and usability, at least on the majority of devices.
I don’t know whether it’s technically easy to change it so that the user can choose between the mobile format and the old format, but it should obviously be easy to just remove the new “skin” and go back to the original format. If TBTB want to continue tweaking the new skin and try to make it usable they can do it offline instead of inflicting on everyone something that clearly isn’t ready for prime time. It’s ironic that in the past, whenever someone has suggested changes like being allowed to post images or having avatars, the response has generally been along the lines that the site prides itself on its minimalist, clean, professional appearance – yet this same site has now been turned into something that looks like a dog’s breakfast on most devices including ordinary PCs, a visual mess. I would really urge a return to the old look while this gets sorted out.
Seems they’ve made a few changes. I get dark gray bars with white text now (without my userscript).
But they also screwed up the Reply and New Post link colors.
Still, maybe I’m wrong about small changes.
Spoilers are working