Of course not! It was a counselor strip. She was on a diplomatic mission.
Shag, I am really beginning to wonder at this point if you are kind of a masochist.
Maybe but I am more of thrill seeker that doesn’t have the sense god gave a goose.
The problem I am running into is that people aren’t honest or consistent in general. That is why I like talking to strippers because their straightforwardness is refreshing. I have spent a whole lot more than $70 on many dates and was left more confused than ever with nothing to show for it.
My ex-wife and my two daughters are also objectively attractive. My youngest daughter is my ideal date. I don’t mean that in a perverted way at all. She is a competitive gymnast that also loves to play chess and checkers and she can speak French fluently. She is 11 so I can’t understand why 30 or 40 something year old women can’t even do a fraction of that. My ex-wife has something like borderline personality disorder but she makes a half a million dollars a year. I don’t think I am a gift to the world but it does set the baseline pretty high for other people.
I am mainly getting irritated by, not just women, but people in general. The one thing that I hate more than anything is people not being where they say will be when they say they will. My coworker did it to me a couple of days ago (he will pay for it), I have one happening right now and a childhood friend did it a few months ago. I do not tolerate flakiness of any sort. If I tell you I will be somewhere on November, 10th 2019 in another state at 8:19 am, you don’t need to tell me twice because I will be there and I won’t be wearing flipflops.
That you think there’s such a concept as “objectively attractive” might be a big part of your problem.
No, physical attractiveness can be quantified very easily. Personality is more nuanced but that can be quantified as well.
It isn’t like ad designers are taking blind guesses when they pick their models. Everyone knows what attractive is at an intuitive level.
What’s attractive to one might be unattractive to another. What’s conventionally attractive in one century might be considered ugly in another century.
Attraction requires subjective judgment.
Everyone knows advertisers’ messages are made to influence, not BE influenced. Their messages tell us what they want us to want, not tell us what we already want. We’ve already bought what we want; their job is to convince us to buy something new they’re selling.
Moral, honest and upright standard that you are, please let your ex know you find your daughter objectively attractive and get back to us w/ how that goes.
I don’t know what you are implying but it is perfectly fine to think your own daughters are pretty. Everyone does and people comment on it all the time with varying degrees of success. My ex knows that they are pretty as well and we have talked about in regards to their safety. I have cousins that are extremely attractive too. I would sooner kill someone than let something bad happen to them. It just means that you are acknowledging reality.
Haven’t you ever seen a pretty girl or boy?
W/o being **attracted **to them, yes.
What do you mean ‘people comment on it all the time with varying degrees of success’ - what success are you talking about?
I mean not being awkward or offensive. Not everyone can pull that off. My oldest is barely 15 and I have her picture hung up in my office. She has the looks and build of a model but the sense for someone her age. Sometimes people walk in and make inappropriate comments about her pictures. I have to point out that she is 15 and she is my first born child so you better not do that again.
My youngest is a serious competitive gymnast and you better better your ass that looks are a serious factor in that sport even though the USGA will deny it all day long. There aren’t any unattractive competitive gymnasts beyond the low levels because the judges screen for it to fail out the less attractive ones before they can advance.
Prettiness or general attractiveness is a trait that extends well beyond dating or sexual relationships. I noticed it too when I was in my mid 20’s and and in really good shape. I could get anything I wanted just by asking and people would do it. Come to think of it, I need to hit the treadmill myself.
I should clarify. I am beginning to think you are some kind of masochist for continuing to post your thoughts about women in this thread.
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I have actually used the phrase ‘‘objectively attractive’’ before so I’m not too worried about that phrasing. I use it to mean, ‘‘most people would be attracted to this person.’’
I am more honest than most and I have no issues with with women in general. I love my daughters, my mother my cousins and everyone else. I like you too. If you and your husband ever need a place to stay in the Boston area, you have one with me. I would move heaven and earth to make things happen for people I care about.
What we are talking about here is different though. It is a competitive game and you can’t tell who is going to screw you over until you get blindsided. I was supposed to have a date with someone in Newport, Rhode Island today. She just dropped communication for no reason and never called me back. I don’t do that to anyone because I think it is disrespectful. Like I said, that isn’t just women. Male friends have done it to me as well. What they don’t realize is that I consider anything like that a blatant lie and I will hurt you for it. It may take months or even years but I will strike when the opportunity arises. I have done it to bunch of people with no regrets and I will happily do it again.
I can’t understand why adults cannot be more straightforward. Things shouldn’t be this complicated. All we are trying to is hang out at a specific time and place. It if you can’t navigate space-time successfully, I don’t want anything to do with you.
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Do you not see this as a serious character flaw? Seriously, I feel sorry for any perspective love interest of yours. I also feel sorry for the “loved ones” close to you. If this is really your state of mind, I can only imagine the passive aggressive bull shit you pull on your supposed “loved ones” when they do what you perceive as “disrespectful” towards you.
I like you too, but I think you do have serious issues with women. I don’t think such things can be compartmentalized. But it doesn’t sound like you’re hurting anyone so I’m not sure who it affects at this point.
I understand this frustrates you, but it might help to keep in mind that some people have legitimate executive functioning problems, such as those with ADHD, that interfere with their ability to manage time, and is not a personal slight against you.
I’m actually a rather timely person despite having ADHD, but I sympathize with people who struggle in this area because I struggle to manage other things that most people would consider very easy. And don’t think it’s not an issue just because someone is highly successful. I have a Master’s degree from an Ivy League but there are days a simple list of chores and appointments overwhelms me. It’s embarrassing but legitimately neurological. I once had an IQ test in which I scored quite high, but the executive functioning segment dragged down my overall score. Other than the ADHD specialist who diagnosed me, I have a hard time getting the diagnosis taken seriously even by therapists because they see all these outward signs of overachieving. You never know what people may be struggling with.
Just food for thought.
It is a serious character flaw and I know that. I am working on it. I present myself as a terrible person but I don’t believe that is completely true. It is ironic that much worse people than me not only don’t realize it, but are not doing anything about it at all. Complete self-awareness is a rare trait.
I love kids, pets and loved ones more than anything but I have a brutal side that I have to keep bridled especially for adults. I can be the kindest person or the biggest asshole you ever met depending on the circumstances. I will happily take care of kids all the time but they have to listen to instructions. Unfortunately, most adults aren’t even at the level of 6th grader. That is why I get frustrated. I can get online dates all day long but I amazed that 30 and 40 somethings can even tie their shoes (maybe that explains the flip-flops). I am not looking for Miss Universe. All you have to do is show up and be nice for an hour. The vast majority are incapable of pulling that off.
I suspect part of this problem may be regional. New England women are a little…different and not in a good way. I am going to Colorado on Tuesday to see family with my girls but I will have a private hotel room. I always have better luck when travelling than I do at home. I will have to see what I can arrange.
No matter where you go, there you are; that’s the issue.
Touché. Teach me to do better.
That’s for a psychiatrist to do; they can prescribe and also get you doing CBT exercises to improve your mental health overall. These are people held to professional standards and is the better place for you to start than dancers or even the internet.
You come across as a man who wants everything that is enjoyable, feels entitled to get it on his terms and then blames everyone and everything outside himself when he doesn’t get it.
I already tried psychiatrists it very literally almost killed me as in ICU level. Never again. I wasn’t expected to live live but I did and I live life on my own terms now. I am not unhappy at all.
I consider myself one of the luckiest people in the world. I would be happy to share some of it with the right person but others keep throwing up pointless roadblocks to even the simplest things. If you want to go to Hawaii in two weeks, I can do that but I can guarantee you that there is a 50-50 chance that the other person will find a way to fuck up the whole plan.
It is hard to find someone over 40 that enjoys life. I don’t think it is juvenile to want to ride roller coasters, go skydiving and explore something out of their comfort zone. I do and that is what I look for. I am not interested in your grandmother’s green bean casserole recipe.
My daughters are coming back from Costa Rica tonight and I am turning them straight back again to go to Colorado for helicopter tours and whitewater rafting with me. That is minimum level of participation that is required. All you have to do is try and few people do.