Don’t settle, shaggy. You’re only going to make yourself and some poor woman miserable.
Been to the Warhol? Flip flops are considered dressy there.
Wholly OT Batman, but if Andy had foreseen the ubiquity of flip-flops (or shower shoes as he’d have known them) in the future I believe he would have created a piece of step-in shower art. Or a series of them, frankly. He loved to highlight the mundane, elevate it to make the details obvious and maybe beautiful to stop and look at if we cared to.
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You may have a point there. The reason I posted my thoughts on this subject here are that Dopers are generally kind, understanding and sympathetic to viewpoints like mine and this is no exception. I just wanted some support for something that I can’t talk about in real life. That is what this board is about and thank everyone for their kind remarks.
I took some of the advise in this thread and went to a Rhode Island strip club. My idiot Nigerian coworker (aka “The Strip Club Magician”) didn’t show because he claimed he forgot about it even though I reminded him about it 2 hours before. I sat at the bar drinking water for an hour before anyone paid attention to me.
Thankfully, one of the truly attractive dancers finally did and sat down next to me. She is 25 years old and very articulate. I agreed to a double dance if she would just talk to me for 10 minutes beforehand. Good strippers are the best counselors that a man can have. They are used to dealing with all types and tend to be very straightforward. She told me that the reason no one else approached me was because I looked disinterested and bored (I was annoyed by my coworker not showing up). I will have to work on that.
I paid for the double dance. This is Rhode Island so it is a private show with full nudity and full contact but no sex (you can still pay for that too if you want to). It was certainly a good service but I barely popped a boner just because the superficial nature of it. I had to tell her to stop twerking and just sit on my lap and talk for the rest of it. She is certainly beautiful and I enjoyed the perky boobs but even 25 seems a little young for me now. Still, it is the best $70 I ever spent for a counseling and personal reflection session.
Uh… Yeah…
Yes, definitely. Strippers are well known for their wisdom and insight, and for their knowledge of successful, happy, and stable relationships.
I’m sure she really cares about you and only has your best interests at heart. That’s why she can be so honest and objective. I mean, it’s not like she wants to get as much money as possible out of you, or anything like that.
Almost everything in life is transactional but most people don’t want to admit that. I was thrilled to have a beautiful woman strip and talk to me for 30 minutes. Of course she doesn’t respect me as person. I am just a client. The difference is that I have had male counselors that were completely incompetent for more money than that and they didn’t do a goddamn thing for me.
I have only been to strip clubs 4 times in my entire life but I respect the good ones. The strippers are independent contractors and it takes a lot of social skills for them to earn a living. Looks alone won’t do it. Their job is to be able to talk to just about anyone and most of them are pretty interesting to talk to if that is what you want to do.
There is no way in hell that I would date one but that isn’t the service they are focusing on. It is astounding about who becomes Rhode Island strippers. A lot of them are white collar professionals or college students that commute from Boston for extra money. We aren’t talking about street whores. I asked a couple of them about risks and they told me there are few. They have bouncers outside the private rooms but they almost never need them. Their clients are mostly middle-aged men that just want a fresh face and a nice pair of boobs.
A professional counselor isn’t trained to blow smoke up your ass and tell you what a wonderful person you are. That’s not their job. That’s what strippers do. It’s the first thing they learn.
I know this because I was immersed in the industry when I was a young man. I was privy to a lot of things most guys don’t get to see. I’ll give you this: A lot of them are master manipulators.
Which I fear is what you are confusing with “superior” counseling.
I certainly didn’t hear what a wonderful person I am because that isn’t true. I did hear what I was doing wrong in general. This isn’t a magic show. One thing I am good at is getting people to reveal the parts of their job that they like and dislike. Being a stripper is a job too and I want to make things perfectly clear before we ever begin. However, I stand by my point that they can give you direct advise that nobody else will. Many of them are very smart and sex savvy. They are happy to coach someone to be the same way if you just listen.
Bolding mine - why wouldn’t you date one? W/ your limited attendance at but somehow in-depth understanding of strip clubs and their employees, you know there are white collar women who also dance. You could conceivably never know if the woman who’s a widowed teacher you mention above is also a dancer - or would your Class-O-Meter go off and let your boner know not to show up for a piece of trash who dances naked in person while you only say nasty and classist shit about women on the internet?
Your Nigerian co-worker (I DO wonder why his ethnicity is important except oh now, it’s fucking Shagnasty so it’s really no wonder that’s he’s categorized someone rather than treat them like a person equal to himself) is by far the LEAST idiotic of the two of you.
Why wouldn’t you date a stripper?
BC and BU don’t take tuition payments in singles!
Old old old joke -
Sadie and Abe had been married going on sixty years and Sadie really wanted to get Abe the watch Abe had always wanted for his birthday. But how to get the money? She’d need to sell her sexual services.
Before she had saved enough though Abe found the stash of money: Four hundred and ten cents.
Abe: Where did this money come from?
Sadies: Well I cannot lie to you, the love of my life. I’ve been selling myself sexually on the street.
Abe: Oy. And who gave you the ten cents?
Sadie: Everyone.
Yes, that’s the standard story that strippers and escorts tell. They are always college students, or saving up for college, or they have a ‘real’ white collar job, or they are just working there for a short time to get money to open their own business, etc.
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**It’s almost never true. ***It’s simply that they know that older, wealthy men will give them more money and be more sympathetic to them if they say things like that.
Look, strippers and escorts are also human beings, and they’re just trying to get by. But they are usually psychologically damaged and very, very cynical and manipulative. They will look you in the eye, smile sweetly, and lie convincingly. And laugh at you with their friends afterwards.
Shagnasty, it seems to me that you are more than a little naive about sex and relationships. You need to admit to yourself that some of your ideas are distorted and inaccurate. And unhelpful to you.
You’d do a lot better to listen to the advice of people on this board, rather than strippers.
More likely because you have been watching too much porn. Porn addiction can result in erectile disfunction with real women.
And, no, this is not a myth or a moral judgment. There is plenty of solid scientific research that shows this to be the case. See Your Brain on Porn
LOL. Your source for this, other than Guilty Ex-Porn User propaganda?
If a stripper blows smoke up your ass, it costs extra.
Well at least there is some degree of efficiency in his method, but not too much efficiency.