It can be completely obvious that you’re not asexual, though. Being distractingly horny much of the time is hard to miss.
There are however people who aren’t asexual who don’t have that problem.
Ah. I hadn’t heard the term used that way for humans; but apparently some people do.
It could happen with a trans man; though that would be an unusual case.
? That seems a bit weird, because the term “cuckolding” is routinely used about a quite common male fetish for wanting their wives to have sex with another man. In such cases, the (self-identified) cuckold is not only aware of the infidelity but is actually encouraging or even requesting it.
In traditional use, as far as I can tell from historical literature, “cuckold” has typically just meant a man whose wife has had extramarital sex with another man. A man can be cuckolded whether or not he knows about his wife’s infidelity, whether or not he’s okay with his wife’s infidelity, and whether or not his wife’s infidelity has resulted in pregnancy.
It’s easier to be sure about the presence of something than the absence. That’s why I think it would be easier to realise you’re gay. I reckon many people have gone through periods of lacking desire, but for most it’s temporary and has a definite cause.
I’ve heard it used that way for humans, and seen men complaining about the laws in some places that say they have to pay child support even if DNA testing proves the kid isn’t theirs.
Do you mean with a trans woman?
That sounds awkward. My friend is more in the ‘no interest but don’t mind doing it’ group, and she used to be married to a heterosexual guy. She didn’t realise until after they were married, IIRC.
No. A person born with a uterus, fallopian tubes, ovaries, and vagina who identifies as a man is a trans man, not a trans woman. Some such men can get pregnant.
The point originally being discussed was a claim that women can cuckold a man but men can’t cuckold a woman.
So surely a trans woman could be cuckolded but not a trans man? I think we’re just looking at it from the opposite point of view.
Possibly. My point was that a trans man could cuckold a woman. She might have thought the pregnancy was due to an arranged medical procedure when it was actually due to sex outside the partnership.
If the definition of “cuckolding” is taken to be the abovementioned rather narrow specification “getting pregnant and bearing a child as a result of cheating on one’s spouse”, then thorny_locust is correct that a cisgender woman can cuckold her husband but a cisgender man can’t cuckold his wife. A transgender man, however, can cuckold his wife.
As I noted above, I think this is a confusingly specific restriction on the term “cuckold”, but hey, language gonna language.
It wasn’t my claim originally. I was in fact originally objecting to the claim, because I wasn’t using that narrow definition of ‘cuckold’ and had never heard it applied to humans.
Oh, I understand now. That reminds me of the artificial insemination cases where the doctor used his own sperm, which is a similar sort of deception.
Well count me as another who has only heard that definition in terms of humans. I’ve always thought a “cuckold” was a male who was tricked into raising kids from another male.
I presume that’s where the MRA term “cuck” came from, but now it refers to any guy who treats a woman like a human being.
Huh? What the hell is a MRA and you got a cite for that last part?
“MRA” = “Men’s Rights Activist”, generally a supporter of anti-feminism backlash and/or outright misogyny.
Look, because a few asshole 4Chans and gamergate losers use a word that way, it doesnt change it’s real meaning. Ie a spouse that is being cheated on.I assume you dont think men that cheat on their wives are a guy who treats a woman like a human being. In fact I suspect strongly the opposite.
I’m specifically referring to the gamergate usage, “cuck.” For some the meaning has evolved. I’ve never heard anyone use the word “cuck” in a way that wasn’t misogynist. It’s an attack on the masculinity of men who support women.
ISTM that “cuck” and “cuckhold” have two different meanings. I wouldn’t use the term “cuckhold” myself because it seems like an attack on men whose wives cheat on them, and blaming the victim is a crappy thing to do. I might use it to describe the fetish because there it’s used in a different context.
I’m amazed you’ve never seen it before, it’s certainly not just 4chan. Spice_Weasel is right, ‘cuckold’ is used in the original ‘cheated on husband’ sense, but I’ve never seen ‘cuck’ used with any other meaning but the misogynist one.
If anyone cares, “cuckold” comes from “cuckoo,” the bird, because they lay their eggs in other birds’ nests, and thereby trick other birds into raising their chicks.
So, probably at one time, “cuckold” did in fact refer specifically to a man who was raising his non-biological child, as opposed to one who had been cheated on without a child resulting-- and technically, it wasn’t his wife who had cuckolded him, but the man she’d slept with (or been raped by, or by whatever means she became pregnant).
I mentioned that earlier, it’s in the Wikipedia entry too.
I’ve heard it used with both the ‘being cheated on’ and the ‘deceived into raising another man’s child’ meanings, but I assumed Jay_Z meant the latter since he said only men could be cuckolded. The former meaning seems to be a lot more common in certain other countries, than in the main English-speaking ones.
Some times a tiny but loud segment of a populace can hijack a word’s meaning. Look how patriot has drifted from the original definition in the last few years.
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Or in the political/social sense, to deride someone for not being among the “strong” group, by association with being unmanly.
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