[Mind-Boggling] Canonical Discrepancies in Enterprise

Or Voyager, DS9, TNG, TOS, the movies and so on… whichever you prefer.

The reason I started this thread is 'cause of the current Enterprise thread on the ‘Stigma’ episode. In it, a staple of Trek is pretty much pulled, stretched, kneaded, and manhandled until it fits what the writers wanted it to and I was wondering if there are any other specific cases of this happening in the show previously since I sadly don’t get UPN and am unaware of just how much the Trek timeline is being mishandled.

I don’t watch Enterprise, but I believe the developers of the show have said that they’re more or less ignoring continuity. Their explanation for this is that time travel has altered the past, and Enterprise is taking place in an alternate timeline. For example, the Starship Enterprise in the show looks so advanced because Zefram Cochrane was exposed to the Enterprise-E in Star Trek: First Contact, so he started building ships that resembled it.

I don’t buy it either. :wink: I suspect they decided to ignore it to ease the task of creating a prequel-type show.

They ignored continuity a lot in the old shows, anyway. The only thing that’s different now is they dropped the pretense of following it.

Damn, not even NoClueBoy posted in this thread.

Me and my thread must suck.

Sorry. Even I miss some Trek threads. Will be back with my fave link in a bit.

Yeah, vanity search. Ever since I saw Vanity in concert, I’ve been searching for her double.

Hehe… I was hoping you did vanity searches or that someone would find my comment funny enough to remark on it and keep this thread on or near the first page. :smiley:

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I joined the boards over there so long ago, I forgot my user name. But, whatever the most inteligent, pithy, perverse, Trekky thing said, it was probably me who said it.

Actually, I got a personal e-mail from Phil Farrand about the StarFleet is/n’t military? discussion. Wish I had saved it to disk. Crash wiped me out 3 or 4 times in last 5 years.

Bite me, Viva, I know you’re gonna pick on my spelling.

Tars likes big words

Not the sort of conversation I was lookin’ for but a swank site nevertheless. Thanks… now I have more Trek stuff to read. :slight_smile:

My biggest continuity gripe about Enterprise is the whole Suliban / Temporal Cold War thing. I love the episodes for it (they’re actually some of the beter ones), but where were they during all the future Treks? Even Voyager never said anything about Suliban/TCW, and they had lots of time travel contact with future and past.

Wouldn’t that mean that the Proto-Federation won? I try to overlook all the time travelling episodes’ discrepancies 'cause they just give me a huge headache when I try to think about them.

For instance, why was it that we only saw the time travelling Starfleet of the 29th Century in Voyager and not in DS9 or TNG? Or howabout the current Temporal Investigations Department? If the technology actually existed like that you know good and well we’d be more like the Krenim and trying to make the Federation the biggest empire around.

Exactly!

That’s why I’m setting up The Campaign for Real Time.

Eddie’s in the space/time continuum. Oh, he is, is he?


Only because you deserve picking on, d-----s (can’t put Pit words here. :wink: )
Intelligent has two l’s (insert another Pit comment here).

There is no slash in isn’t, but you put one in because you’ve got fanfic slash on the brain. :stuck_out_tongue:

(Sorry, my Mirror/Mirror dark side from the current Pile On Parody Pit Thread is seeping over into this quadrant.)

My hope: The very last episode uses that weapon that eliminates alien races from history and the Suliban get nailed with it, so they vanish and never were. also Hoshi’s clothes get hit by splatter fire and also vanish…

All I have to say about the whole “alternate timeline” excuse for avoiding continuity:

Biggest Cop-out EVER.

They’re introducing races right and left in Enterprise which get absolutely no mention whatsoever in “future” stories.

They have established several times that the transporter can affect various miracle cures, said cures being conveniently forgotten whenever necessary to the plotline. Likewise, they fairly consistently forget any technological advances if they’re inconvenient for ongoing storytelling. For example, there is no reason for Picard or Keiko to ever grow old–they can be re-transported into their 12-year-old bodies whenever necessary, and become effectively immortal. Happening? No way. Is research being done to recreate this anomaly on a consistently reliable basis? Probably not.

I mentioned in the latest Enterprise thread my main problem with the show is that it is characterizing the Vulcans as being illogically mean, harsh, nosy bastards.

I think that’s what bugs me. There is so much that can be drawn from in the cannon but this show wants to create new races rather than build detailed backgrounds on the previous ones.
And the ones they actually do work on (the poor Vulcans) they completely change them to fit their planet.

errr… plot (sorry carrying on a conversation while typing.

I don’t watch the show, because I hate it, but last week I chanced upon the rerun of “The Seventh,” where T’Pol was enlisted by her superiors to bring in a fugitive she’d wrangled with in the past because it was “a matter of honor.” Archer’s take on this was “how very Vulcan.”

But it’s not! Honor is an emotional concept. Vulcans reject all such. Even if we grant Berman/Braga the ridiculous premise that the “Temporal Cold War” lets them throw continuity out the window, there’s no excuse for throwing out a species’ entire raison d’etre like that.

I turned off the episode at that point.

Well, as they showed in that episode, she is insane…

If they would just get to the old formula they used so well so often in other Treks: Let more than one person play.

Whether it be internal plots, danger form a space cloud, meeting aliens, or silly playtime… make it more than the Janine Blalock show.

Wasn’t Blalock that little midget guy Kirk met on the Fesarius?

Jolene? or Janine?

Star Trek Exposure?

Where’s Joel?

Either one of them.