Here’s my take on the situation. I don’t believe that Gary Condit murdered Chandra Levy. He’s had numerous affairs before, and I assume that he’s had to handle similar situations. He would have too much to lose if he killed her; I think that Chandra fell in love with him, and ordered Gary to leave his wife and marry her. Gary probably laughed in her face and dumped her. I live in the DC metro area, and there have been reports of a serial killer. Chandra seemed to have left her apartment in a hurry; only taking her keys. Maybe she needed to pick something up at a drugstore and someone dragged her off? Just speculation of course, but stranger things have happened. By the way, pepperlandgirl, I agree with you about their relationship. I believe that Chandra knew what she was getting into, despite her age, she was brazen enough to think that she would break up a marriage that had seen several previous affairs. For what its worth, Gary Condit is a low-life liar, opportunist, and general weasel, but “it takes two to tango”.
I don’t think Gary Condit had anything to do with Chandra Levy’s disappearance. He’s had several affairs before; I’m assuming he’s had to deal with situations like this before. As it stands right now, he’s only guilty of bad judgement and sleazy morals for not telling the whole truth when she was first declared missing. Valuable time has been lost, and crucial evidence has been compromised. However, if he killed her, he would have too much to lose. By the way, pepperlandgirl, I agree with you. I believe that both Gary Condit and Chandra Levy bear somewhat equal burdens of bad behavior. I give Gary about 55% responsibility because he’s in a position of trust, he’s older, and in a long term marriage. However, a 24-year old woman is old enough to know not to date a married man.
In reply to my doubt that Ms. Levy died at the hands of a serial killer, GIGObuster said:
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Dismissing a serial killer is easier if there is no activity in the area but this is not the case:
“Cmdr. Jack Barrett, the Metropolitan Police Department’s new chief of detectives, said they have been trying to link her disappearance to other women who have disappeared.
He said the case that most resembles Miss Levy’s is that of Joyce Chaing, who was last seen in Dupont Circle in February 2000. Her decomposed body was found in the Potomac River three months later.
Cmdr. Barrett said detectives could not determine whether Miss Chaing committed suicide or was killed because of the poor condition of her body when it was found.”
Eehhh…I see your point, but the thing is this; From the source you quoted, I gather that there’s not any proof that this Chaing woman was killed at all, hence no evidence of a killer in the area. What one is dealing with is suspicion. I suppose one could say that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but it would sure help to convince me.
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Mrs. Condit, on the other hand, was almost never in Washington DC, which is where Gary was careful to carry on his affairs out of her sight. In addition, while she’s not exactly a recluse in her California community, she hasn’t shown any penchant for the spotlight or anything that she’d lack as the ex-wife, rather than wife, of an obscure (until this scandal) congressman.
As for Gary carrying on his affairs out of sight, perhaps she didn’t have a clue, as you seem to imply. Somehow, though, I don’t buy it. It’s just a hunch. As for her not having a problem with the divorce…What about money? Was she - before she married - or would she be, in the event of divorce, able to live in the style in which she now lives? Yes, I’ve heard of alimony, but still.
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The improbable part of this is the actual procuring of a professional killer. Where would a busy Congressman find one–in Roll Call? Wouldn’t Condit then become ripe for blackmail? (I’m guessing hit men aren’t the most principled lot, inasmuch as they will do “anything” for money.) Seems your hit man would have to have impeccable credentials to win over that level of trust from a Congressman who would be ruined (and jailed) were the plot botched and uncovered.
First off, let me announce that I am not, in fact, a conspiracy nut. Thank you. Anyhow…
There have been previous instances of murders-for-hire in this country - the Mafia has a history of them and we have heard of others (type “murder for hire” into a search engine and see how many cases come up).
I wonder about the numbers because I would think that truly “professional” hit men are generally smart enough not to get caught. To my knowledge, hitmen who are discovered are generally caught in one of two ways; evidence of some sort (witnesses, skin, prints), or they’re stupid and brag. Thing is, a lot of these “hitmen” aren’t pros, but violent, Joe Average psychopaths who don’t know what they’re doing, looking to make a quick buck and release their tendencies.
I’m not suggesting that there are thousands of hired guns out there, but I believe that my scenario IS a possibility. As for him being a “busy congressman”; if some shmuck mother-in-law can find a greedy asshole to kill her daughter’s husband, do you really think that a congressman (who, I would think, would be better connected)wouldn’t be able to find someone? Someone who was a pro. Someone more trustworthy, who knew how to do the job without botching things.
The professional hitman knows what he’s doing, knows how to clean up, and knows that unless he really fucked up in disposal of the body, he cannot be tied to the disappearance/death. He’s home free.
As for the blackmail thing and the lack of logic shown by thinking of hiring a hitman…Not everyone is logical all the time. Lookit Mr. Ex-President Clinton - he wanted what he wanted and never figured on Monica keeping that lovely blue dress. And no, although I think that the man obstructed justice, I’m not comparing Clinton to a murderer. Condit may have wanted what he wanted, then only later realized, “Oh shit…this dude can hang this over my head forever” People who would go to the extreme of paying someone to kill someone else are probably not particularly rational at that time.
On the other hand, what good would it do for the hitman who covered his tracks so well to go to the police and say, “Hey, I know where that Levy chick is 'cause I killed her on Condit’s orders”? He disposed of her, she’s sharing space with Jimmy Hoffa or whatever, and that’s that. Why drag it up? He got the money that was owed him, that’s why it’s called “contract killing”.
And for that matter, why would Condit be scared of blackmail? Unless he was recorded asking about the deal, there’s not a whole helluva lot of proof, as I see it. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what I think.
Oooh. One more thing. Yes, Ms. Levy is (was, probably) an adult who should have known better and behaved better. However, I’m very close in age to Ms. Levy (I’ll be 23 in January) and I can see where she might be torn, but truly believe what he told her. There are plenty of lines that people in love will swallow (“My marriage is pretty much over”, “She doesn’t try to understand my needs”, “I’m waiting for the right time to divorce”), no matter their age or general maturity levels.
Okay, I’m done.
Here’s my 2 cents worth. She’s not dead. Everything that I have heard about her is that she was
A. A smart, motivated woman in politics.
B. Not unfamiliar to the realm of dating older, married men.
Add this to the fact that Mr. Condit (to the best of my very limited knowledge) had very little to gain by killing her and little to lose if she were alive (Clinton survived a similar scandal). So my thought goes like this:
They have an affair. He says: I’m not leaving my wife for you. She says: (having heard this line before) OK, gimme lots of money, say by creating some “program” to divert government (or more likely campaign) funds to or I tell your wife. He says: Sure.
Easy. She’s in Mexico, he’s in the spotlight, and this whole thing will come to light once the DC cops and the Feds ransack the Condit offices.
She’s hiding out with Tupac and Elvis.
frock75:
Are there really Elvis-style “Tupac sightings” now? I know you’re making a joke, but I’m curious as to your reference to Tupac (as opposed, say, to Jimmy Hoffa).
Chaim Mattis Keller
I think I can help you out, there, cmkeller. At least one music video was made featuring formerly unexhibited film of Tupac. That video had a number of anachronisms, most notably, a Volkswagen Beetle is seen. The Beetle came out after Tupac’s death, and as a result the same people who believe that Faces of Death III is real despite the multiple camera angles believe that Tupac is still alive and kickin’ it.
BTW, the Potomac flooded massively this weekend. If the girl was in the river, I think the chances of finding her now are sadly diminished.
A slight hijack here, but I always firmly believed that had the Lewinsky affair taken place during the Nixon administration, she’d be long gone as well.
I assume that this post was meant to illustrate Nixon’s wickedness, rather than plnnr’s paranoia. The Paranoid Right distributes lists of supposedly “suspicious deaths,” presumably due to Clinton and his cronies.
Nixon was certainly evil in many ways, but this is the first time I’ve seen him called a murderer. plnnr, do you have any basis for your accusation?
I’m pretty sure that what pllnr meant was that any girl who gave Richard Nixon a blow job would be so grossed out that she’d have to kill herself immediately thereafter.
You didn’t hear about bombing Cambodia?
**Strangers on a Train ** und **Throw Mama From the Train **
Condit killed Jon Benet Ramsey.
Mrs. Ramsey Killed Levy.
Hey, come on now. Give the guy some credit. They didn’t call him “Tricky Dick” for nothing.