Moon Knight - Disney Plus show

Not so late:

This is spot on.

Yes. Plus, for all the ‘our case must be ironclad’ or whatever it was, neither Khonshu nor Marc ever really made a case—I mean, at least tell the gods, he’s got this two-headed crocodile rod he uses to judge people before they have committed a crime, and a tattoo that shows the measure of a soul, he stole the flying scarab, or whatever. Seems like to have a judgment, you’d at least want to present the accusation!

Perhaps the gods are playing it cool and letting Harrow dig his own grave, so to speak.

That’s some impressive picking up on clues and deducing I must say!! But yes now that you point it out it is very clearly true!

If so then sloppily done as I think the line was “after”…

I’m guessing it is TBNL (alter 3) becoming part of the team to others’ awareness that brings what is needed.

Oh, I didn’t realize you referring to a specific line from the show. I don’t recall the one you’re referring to off the top of my head.

Nope. My bad. Misheard. Line was:

“It will come at a cost, and I cannot do it alone. Steven, when the gods imprison me, tell Marc to free me.”

No “after” there.

So has anyone else noticed that when Harrow walks, you can hear the glass shards in his shoes grinding against each other?

Yes and it’s a great detail.

Re the trial: In Egyptian myth, the judgment of the dead was based on negative confessions ie “I did not do X” which means that if you don’t say anything, then it is assumed you did do that sin. And lying was grounds for being devoured as much as a sin itself. By redirecting to Marc, Harrow was able to avoid having to say a lie or not answering at all while also forcing Marc into the same position.

I copied that from elsewhere but it’s interesting. Dunno if that’s what they intended.

I’m really enjoying Oscar’s acting, but I sometimes struggle over the plot. Help will be appreciated!

In episode 1, I thought Steven had asked Dylan out for a steak meal.
She duly went to the restaurant on a Friday.
Sadly Marc had taken over and spent two days doing stuff, so Steven arrived at the restaurant on Sunday…

Yep, that’s mostly right-except that with the reveal of Marc’s marriage it seems unlikely he’d set up the date. So someone else did.

I went back and watched episode 1 again.

At the beginning when he’s talking to mum’s VM he says “I got your postcard” as he’s sticking it up next to the fish tank. So someone is sending him mail, real mum or not.

The security guard who keeps calling him Scotty – maybe he’s not getting Steven’s name wrong, maybe Scotty is the third personality? Who might be who asked Dylan out on the date.

Also in the end credits, when Oscar Isaac’s name appears, they show three faces…

Close - in the first episode, Dylan approaches him and says she’s looking forward to their date at “the best steakhouse in town.” Steven plays along, but clearly has no idea what she’s talking about - he didn’t make the date. By the end of the first episode, you’re supposed to think that it was Marc, but then we actually meet him, and he’s still too hung up on his ex to go setting up dates. So, it must have been a third personality.

Speculation: Marc’s suffering from extreme PTSD because of his violent life in general, and the specific circumstances around him becoming Moon Knight. He needs to stop fighting and heal, but Khonshu won’t let him: the world’s at stake, and he needs to save it. So he creates the Steven alter, which is everything he thinks is missing from his life; quiet, calm, no responsibilities. But Steven is also a mess, because DID isn’t a replacement for therapy. So Steven creates an alter which is everything he thinks is missing from his life: confident, charismatic, and not afraid to walk up to a beautiful woman and ask her out to the best steak house in the city.

Thanks everyone - that’s increased my enjoyment of the show. :sunglasses:

I like this theory. So it’ll just be more violent alternating with meeker personalities all the way down? Because the third personality was so bad that even Marc was shocked by it.

I thought at some point in Ep. 3 Marc and Layla were discussing how they could have dealt with Steven during their relationship, and how he had Steven under control then. That implied to me that Marc’s multiples already existed pre-Khonshu, rather than being created as a reaction to them.

There is a scene like the one you describe, where Layla says she could have helped, and Marc says he had things “under control,” but she’s saying (essentially) “You should have told me what was going on when this started, instead of running away,” and he’s saying, “I didn’t need help, I was handling it.” Layla definitely didn’t know that Marc has DID when we first meet her character. When she meets Steven, she doesn’t recognize him, and thinks he’s just under cover, and refusing to break character. He has to convince her that he genuinely has no idea who she or Marc are.

In theory, yeah, his third alter would eventually spin out a fourth, who would be meek and peaceful in a way that’s different from Steven, and then that alter would spin out a fifth, and so on. But I suspect that his situation will resolve itself enough for him to at least stabilize at three, if not actually start reintegrating himself. In the comics, his number of alternates varies a little over time, but he doesn’t have a bottomless stack of them, like Crazy Jane in Doom Patrol.

I’m not sure if Marc was shocked at the violence, so much as shocked that there was violence he wasn’t responsible for. He’s definitely had no problems killing Harrow’s goons in the prior two episodes.

OK, this interesting thread led me to watch episode 1 again (and jolly good it is too - even on a second viewing. :sunglasses: )

But now I have a minor question - what’s the deal with Steven’s goldfish having first one, then two fins?

It apparently died while they were running around in the Alps. Either Mark or The Other Guy bought a new goldfish, hoping that Steven was too dense to notice it had “grown” another fin.

Of course-for all we know that was the 3rd then too, and Marc only showed up for the chase.

OR-Khonshu created a meaner alter when he thought Marc was losing his steam. A bloody bruiser like Harrow who had no wife or moral issues with stabbery.

Mark or Trey tried to find a one-finned goldfish. The clerk at the pet store told Steven that she had told him the day before they didn’t have one. Either of those personalities strike me as having no qualms about cutting one fin off a goldfish, so that fix was easy; the tougher problem was hiding the fact it was two days later.