Ms. Jolie, why do you have to be so fucking hot?

Yeah, she’s definitely ‘movie star’ beautiful. But, I don’t know. She’s kinda, um, scary looking. Or intimidating looking. Like she would not give you the time of day unless you’re at least as pretty as her Bradley.

Plus she’s a home-wrecker.

Plus growing up she probably blew her brother at some point.

Plus (needless to say) she’s overall stone-cold, bat-shit, fucking out-of-her mind. I saw her on Inside the Actor’s Studio. She had a ‘no rules’ hippie mom. So she had a live-in boyfriend at 13, and by 14 she was already so bored with fucking & sucking that she started cutting to get a thrill.

Eeek! No thanks. Mr. Pitt be damned, I’d take Jennifer Aniston over her any day. She’s all-American, sweet girl-next-door pretty. I picture her in pigtails, plaid shirt, and cut-offs rolling around in a hayloft.

Jolie? On a Paris catwalk snorting heroin behind the curtains.

Have you seen Billy-Bob Thornton?

People who have worked with her (Dustin Hoffman, Clint Eastwood, Robert DeNiro, James McEvoy, Marianne Pearl) have nothing but nice things to say about her, that she is very down-to-earth and sets people at ease quickly, that she’s not above making a self-deprecating joke and even she herself has said she thinks she looks rather like a muppet. And to echo Mr. Dibble, see Billy Bob.

Brad is quoted as saying his life was “going nowhere” before he met Angelina. He and Aniston spent more time apart than they spent together during their 4-year “merger” (quoting Brad again), plus Jen said in 2003 Brad was not the love of her life, and she even forgot to thank him when she won her Emmy. As I said before, no home to wreck. You do know that Jen’s very own BFF Courtenay Cox lived with Micheal Keaton for a year while he was still legally married to someone else, right? Is she a homewrecker, too?

Somebody’s been reading too many tabloids. All because of one closed-mouth kiss on the lips. There is a picture of Micheal Douglas kissing his father Kirk on the lips. I guess they are having incestuous sex, too.

I agree that she had a mother who was too permissive (and an absentee father), but that doesn’t equate to Angelina being crazy (especially now), and if you truly knew anything about teenage girls who cut themselves, you would know it has nothing to do with needing a thrill.

So you’re a Jennifer Aniston fan, and obviously you wouldn’t think anything positive about Angelina anyway. Sure, Aniston has an all-American image, but she also has one of the most aggressive bulldog publicists in the industry (Stephen Huvane) to make damn sure that’s how you see her. Ansiton, by her own admission is as neurotic as they come, and has many of her own psychological issues. She’s not perfect, either.

Angelina did say she tried heroin once years ago, and she also talked about how she has no need to be self-destructive anymore. I think it is healthy that she is willing to be open and honest about it. Personally, I identify more with any person who has had to overcome alot of deep, dark stuff and come through it so nicely.

Funny how there is usually not alot of sympathy for Angelina. She is always perceived as the scary bad girl that “stole” poor defenseless Brad Pitt. Despite the fact that Billy Bob left her rather cruelly with a little child to raise by herself because he told her he didn’t want to be a father, then he went ahead and had a child in short order with another woman. Ouch! To me, I guess ol’ BBT just didn’t want to be a father to a baby that wasn’t genetically his, which speaks badly about him as a person. Angelina seemed to really love Billy Bob, and all this probably really caused her alot of pain, but she didn’t go whining about it to Vanity Fair. She picked herself up and kept going and didn’t say one bad word about BBT in the press. I relate to, and admire that, actually.

The way people react to this whole Joile vs. Aniston thing fascinates me (since I took the time to find out more) and says alot about America’s attitudes towards women, and women’s attitudes towards themselves. We still have a huge need to label things based on surface perceptions.

And to tie it back to the topic of the thread, yes, all this makes her even more smoking HAWT!

I don’t think she’s a home-wrecker. Pitt and Aniston had very different pictures of their future lives. Everything I read (not that it’s gospel) said they were on the rocks already. People grow apart. Also, it takes two to tango. Pitt is the one that ended his marriage; not Jolie.

Aniston fans crack me up. A person is always the person they were at one time and can never change, and even if they do, they still deserve to be scorned and hated for how they acted back then?

Homewrecker my ass. Pitt badly wanted kids. I was a fan of his way back from the time of Kalifornia, and I read numerous interviews over the years, looooong before he met Aniston, where he said that he loved kids and was looking forward to one day having a large family. Aniston’s pooh-pooh’d the notion that they were growing apart because she didn’t want kids, at least not yet, but I notice they didn’t have any. It’s a choice and a fine choice if both parties agree, but obviously they weren’t compatible on this front.

I do believe that there were immediate sparks between Pitt and Jolie, probably starting with how he treated Maddox (whereas Thornton didn’t want anything to do with Maddox). I don’t believe they had an affair, because as I said earlier, Jolie wouldn’t want a guy she couldn’t trust, but I can guess that the moment they met, it was inevitable that they would get together. I just believe that Pitt ended his marriage before that happened. I’m HARSH on people having affairs. I think most people who have affairs are scum of the earth, so perhaps my bias toward these two is making me overlook a possible affair, but I can’t help it. I don’t believe it happened. Everything points to the fact that Pitt and Jolie were meant to be together though. Should he have stayed with Aniston, unhappy, with no kids to raise, just to avoid hurting her feelings? She’s a beautiful person, she seems like a nice person, and they were a very cute couple, and I wish her well, but it just wasn’t meant to be.

Aniston wrecked her own marriage by over-estimating her own talent, and under-estimating her marriage. Brad stayed with her hanging onto her fake promise of starting a family for SIX long years. They split ‘amicably’ up until the announcement in January, but then Aniston saw that Brad moved on quickly to Angelina. Aniston was hoping to do this “on again, off again” PR game with Brad, which he couldn’t give a damn about. Aniston’s ego was hurt, lost a great PR game, so she turned on Brad in Vanity Fair 2005 interview, letting her friends and the writer trash Brad. She is a malicious, passive-aggressive, and pathetically insecure loser. Brad, GOOD RIDDANCE. You earn your happiness today. Look who got almost 6 kids and who got NONE, while still yapping “I want children” empty song. Brad saw through her lies and now so many people after seeing Brad so happy with his big family with the Oscar winning Angelina.

Jenfraud? Did you join this forum specifically to discredit Jennifer Aniston?

That’s…awesome.

Are you Angelina Jolie? How *you *doin’? :wink:

I agree. Her beauty is within herself, how she sees herself. Her outer beauty just enhances it. There are plenty of beautiful women, but Angelina knows herself and her sexuality. She has no inhibition. Angelina confronted her youthful dark days, various fantasies and desires, then GREW UP to be this formidable, MATURE woman. It’s a hell of a lot different from that certain sitcom actress who, at age 40, still hanging onto the “America’s sweetheart” image with her dear life, all the while still carrying around her insecurities and forcing upon her partners.

Love your post, and ITA, especially with what you said about Brad. I have followed his career since Interview With the Vampire, Legends of the Fall, and 12 Monkeys. I put on 12 Monkeys just to watch the asylum scenes. A popular catch phrase in our house is “Get out of my chair!!!” It amazes me that anyone could think for one minute this guy would be content as Malibu Ken to Jen’s Barbie. One needs only to look at the movie roles he has chosen. He mostly picks roles that are quirky and dark with a little kink on the side. He likes to ugly himself up and even gender-bend, too. Anything to overcome the leading man trap. Angelina seems a much better fit for him, and he certainly does seem happy with her, considering he has pretty much been cemented to her side since they got together. He told Larry King that they just don’t like being apart.

I, too, think Brad and Jen were a cute couple, but truth be told, he got kinda boring during his marriage to her, and I lost interest. His creativity didn’t seem too inspired either because he didn’t work much, and the films he did make from 2000-2004 were not his best work. He said he was depressed, and his career flagged. Maybe he was on the rebound from Gwen Paltrow, IDK. OTOH, the post-Angelina Brad seems renewed and is doing some really good work, both on and off the screen. I am really looking forward to The Curious Case of Benjamin Button coming out later this year. It pairs him with Cate Blanchett and David Fincher is directing.

Mostly I find it very interesting how this particular Hollywood divorce and the ensuing manufactured triangle still polarizes people. Something about these three people hits some kind of chord that creates a strong reaction one way or another. As in the examples I gave of other celebrities who have committed equal or greater trangressions, somehow people feel more strongly about this one. There’s alot of projecting of feeling going on that seems greater than usual.

I guess it is Angelina’s hotness. Blame it on the hotness! If she weren’t so bleeping hot, none of this would have happened.

Sigh, is that really necessary? I don’t see any need to turn this into an ugly Aniston-bashing thread. They didn’t work out, that should be enough. Aniston fans and Jolie fans both need to cool it. You and Hail Ants should go mud wrestle or something and get this hatred out of your system.

Add me to the list of semi-straight women who’d definitely NOT kick Angelina out of bed. Lately, however, she’s begun to look a bit skeletal, so I think the pregnancy-related weight gain has done nothing but good things for her looks. She’s definitely not a “classic” beauty (whatever THAT means), but her features are interesting and work well together.

Yea, apparently she was a bit of a fruitbat for a few years earlier in her life, but hey, who wasn’t?

Yes, I am here to expose the fraudulent Miss Aniston, who put forth the ‘bermuda triangle’ for her own benefit to demonize Angelina Jolie. Here is another instance of her hypocrisy, promoting an environmentally un-eco friendly bottled water called “Smart(dumb)Water”.

"Ms. Aniston’s choice of beverage is indeed a poor reflection on her part. Ironic, as well! With last year’s reports of Ms. Aniston spending less than five minutes in the shower to conserve water - her decision to represent a bottled water brand only serves to undermine her earth-friendly image.

One of the best and most simple things you can do to reduce your ecological footprint is to stop buying bottled water. Making bottles to meet Americans’ demand for bottled water required the equivalent of more than 17 million barrels of oil last year (alone) – enough fuel for more than 1 million U.S. cars for a year - and generated more than 2.5 million tons of carbon dioxide." From osoblog.tv

Jolie is beautiful but she is severely limited as an actress IMO. She can’t really play anything besides the “sexy vixen” role.

Believe what you want about Pitt and Jolie, but it’s pretty well established that Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton were doing something while he was still in a long-term relationship with Laura Dern. Fair or not, I’m not sure she’ll ever get rid of the “homewrecker” cloud.

Even so, who gives a fuck about that, when it comes to her sex appeal?

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

“sexy vixen” is a huge part of what a Hollywood leading actress of her age is expected to be able to pull off. Charlize Throne, Zeta Jones, Halle Barry, etc come to mind? On the other hand, those who CAN’T do a “sexy vixen” are considered a failure. Just see Jennifer Aniston in DERAILED. Jolie or Zeta Jones would have nailed that role in the first shot.

Laura Dern herself HOMEWRECKED Billy Bob while he was married but no one points finger at her. Why? Simply, because she isn’t as beautiful as Jolie. She is another one who can’t pull of “sexy vixen”.

So I see you have a double standard.

Not sure that it ever hurt Elizabeth Taylor. In fact, I think that scandal goes a long way to maintaining her reputation - and whatever desire she has to stay in the spotlight. Jolie seems wise, she is making a reputation for herself around third world children - something she can pull off she sexy (homewrecker, slut, depending on your point of view) starts to look desperate. (There are sexy women who remain sexy as they age - not sure if Jolie will pull it off)

Didn’t see A Mighty Heart, did you? Yeah, the pregnant wife of a murdered journalist was sure a sexy vixen alright. Based on precursor indications, she was thisclose to getting an Academy Award nomination but the field was very crowded.

The Jolie of Billy Bob Thornton was a very different Jolie from the one who emerged after she adopted Maddox. I really do believe she woke up and looked at the world around her and decided she didn’t like what she saw, starting with Billy Bob, who’s a great actor but a real dick who’s cheated on every woman he’s ever been with and who was disgusted that he lost the attention of his trophy wife to a kid that wasn’t even his.

You’re kidding? Right?

Please don’t make blanket statements about an actress if you haven’t seen some of their best work.