I never thought I’d say this on the dope, but you give men WAY too much credit.
Most of us are decent, but there are guys who would absolutely tell you to your face that the reason they didn’t have sex with you was because seeing you naked repulsed them.
I know a guy who worked for three months to get a girl in bed. Took her to dinner & plays, pretended to take an honest interest in her, and when they finally got naked saw she had an inverted nipple, told her it was gross, got dressed and left and never spoke to her again.
Frylock has at least proposed a scenario that works. He wanted it to happen, but couldn’t get it up when the time came, and he blamed it on the wrinkles, whether that was really the reason or not.
zoid’s scenario does not work. Yes, it is possible for two people to get into bed naked without it being a sexual thing, but that can only happen if both people don’t think it is a sexual thing. They’d have to be nudist co-sleepers, something that’s not all that common. They are uncommon enough that it would idiotic to assume that the other person was one as well. You’d have to have discussed it. Otherwise, the usual implication would be sexy time.
There is just no scenario where the guy was not after sexy time with this woman.
I do personally think that there’s no way the wrinkles were a problem, since he would be aware of that problem well before needing to perform. It would be extremely strange to expect to get hard during sex if you couldn’t while cuddling.
Yeah, it’s totally normal to be shocked at what a 59-year-old’s body looks like, then respond by getting repeadly naked when you find you’re repulsed by it. It’s also normal to be scared of awkwardness to the point of absurdity one day, only to be brutally honest 48 hours later over the same subject, and to a person whose life’s work is on that subject.
That’s totally normal.
Many times people don’t know how to deal with an awkward situation when it happens. That doesn’t mean that later on they won’t be insensitive about it.
The guy in your description clearly wanted sexy time, but was turned off at the last moment by something he didn’t know about. He led the woman on to get something, but found out he didn’t really want it. The scenario you are proposing happened in the OP’s article has the guy already knowing something is a dealbreaker, but still choosing to act just like someone who still wants sexy time, when he really doesn’t. He would have chosen to lead her on for no benefit to himself.
The first scenario is common enough to be believable. The second is not.
Do you think this sort of thing happens often or do you believe, that if this happened exactly as presented (with all the odd things it seems to go contrary to), this is pretty much more of an anomaly that a general rule of thumb?
Nah, I don’t think it happens very often at all, but I definitely think it’s plausible that a 59 year old woman went way on a weekend trip with a man friend and when they got naked the guy decided there was no way it was gonna happen and faced with this conundrum he couldn’t think of a good way to extract himself.
I can totally believe that when later confronted he might just say “Look, I’m gonna be honest…”
Then that makes more sense. If this supposed guy is one in a million, then I’m not worried about him at all. That’s such an infinitesimal amount of men who might even ever be in circumstances exact as this, that it’s pointless to use them as something to hold up and ridicule. fisha’s point remains in tact. The vast majority of men wouldn’t do that and the way the whole thing is portrayed is self-serving.
I don’t think it is unbelievable at all. I have always been attracted to women between the ages of 24 and 33 ever since I was a child give or take a couple of years in exceptional cases but that is the general attraction rule. That worked out great for the longest time because I could go out with older women while I was in college or younger women when I got divorced at 35. I can still do that at 41 but I realize that I will be pushing it in a few years especially if I keep my other standards in place.
I hate to say it but sleeping with an ugly and/or old chick is no different to me than sleeping with a guy in my terms. It simply never enters into my thought process. It doesn’t mean that I don’t like them, it just means that we aren’t doing that particular activity together. That also applies to all fat chicks, dumb ones, all males and everyone else that doesn’t fit my qualifications.
I don’t think I am all that great but I am an extremely hard lay. Many women have tried and only a few have succeeded. It is a myth that all men will sleep with any woman that will lay still long enough to sleep with them. It isn’t happening in my case if you don’t fit the right profile. I don’t know what I am going to do when my primary dating audience is forced to be 40 - 50 year olds. That simply isn’t going to work. I may have to go celibate because that is definitely a case in which nothing is better than the alternative in my view.
Yep. Even me. And that’s quite a high bar to clear bearing in mind how desperate for it I used to be twenty-odd years ago.
The younger and hornier you are, the more magical they are. A nineteen-year-old dick will be fairly happy with anywhere wet and warm. But men get less desperate and more choosy as they get older, and sooner or later men’s standards going up cross over women’s attractiveness going down - with immense variation case by case, naturally. Not that that’s the only factor, but it is one, for sure.
Concerning ED, I think it’s like what I’ve been told about women liking sex - it’s not that they don’t want it, it’s that they don’t want it with you. By the same token, yes it will get hard, it’s just that it won’t get hard for you.
In other words, you probably don’t go on a lot of 3-night vacations with 59-year-old women and spend every night naked and making out with them. Am I right?