My Stupid Ex-Daughter-in-Law

I am so fucking mad I could scream!!!
My ex daughter in law is cranking my son for child support and she gets pregnant by her new boyfriend!
She doesn’t ‘believe in’ birth control or abortion and she is already taking money from the state from another marriage that she was in and the guy was such a loser he cannot provide any monthly assistance and apparently she doesn’t believe in common sense, either.
I am sorry but this child is going to be supported by the welfare system for the entire duration of his youth and guess who’s paying for it!
You stupid fucking idiot, I hope you are in back labor for 72 hours.

No, no, it exists. It’s on aisle five of the drug store.

Seriously, people who don’t believe in birth control shouldn’t have sex. Just my opinion.

[Nerdy, confused look]Maybe she shouldn’t be having sex then.[/Nerdy, confused look]

I don’t suppose there’s a chance someone could talk her into putting the kid up for adoption. It sounds like he or she’d have a better life and learn more common sense.

Is your son the father of her existing child? Does your son also not believe in birth control?

Was wondering about this, too, though accidents do happen. If I were a guy, I wouldn’t touch an anti-abortion woman with a ten-foot pole [insert penis-related joke here]. Not that a pro-choice woman would necessarily have an abortion if she were to have an unplanned pregnancy, but at least it would be an option.

Why do you say she’s “cranking” your son for child support? That’s his responsibility. He doesn’t get off the hook for that if she has 10 more children. Why did you mention this in your rant?

Perhaps your son could rescue his child from this woman by petitioning for custody. Is that an option here?

Maybe because the fact that she’s probably not going to get child support for her expected child means that some of the child support her son is paying will be spread more thinly? WAG

Could be. Or maybe not; we don’t know the details, but if the son’s so concerned about the child’s well-being, he should seek custody.

Agreed. I think it’s quite possible she’s worried about enough money to go around, but it’s irrelevant. Child support goes for all kinds of things unrelated to the direct care of the children (by direct, I mean food and clothing). She could use that money for a car payment and it would be a legitimate use of the funds. I think your suggestion that he seek child custody is right on. If he feels the household won’t be capable of supporting his kids the way he’d like, he can either contribute more money or he can try to get full custody. How she spends the money within the realm of housekeeping is really no one’s concern but hers.

Which is irrelevant.

If he is the father of a child then he is expected to support that child, it matters not how thin the payment is spread just so long as he contributes towards HIS childs upbringing.

I don’t get the cranking bit at all

Aside from it being spread more thinly, if she has the support adjusted after she has the child, he will pay more. At least in Ohio, that’s how it works. My barely employed ex had three more children in the 4.5 yrs following our divorce. My support doubled even though I only earn about 40% more.

Why? Because they impute (is that the correct term?) her annual income at full-time minimum wage (fair enough, she’s not disabled). That comes to like $14k/yr. But then they give her “tax breaks” (nevermind that she also gets assistance, medicaid and EIC) of about $2k for each child, and suddenly on the support worksheet her adjusted income is only a few thousand, a fraction of my “huge” <snort> income. Hence my kids are suddenly more expensive to raise, because she continues to crank out fuck trophies.

To be fair, I would receive the same tax breaks on the worksheet if I had further offspring. But since I choose to instead work fulltime and support the children I have, I’m penalized for her bedroom activities.

No, I’m not at all bitter, why do you ask? :stuck_out_tongue:

Wow. I’ve never heard of support being based on the mother’s income. Only on the father’s. If you make $10K a year, the kids get $2500 (or whatever). If you make $100K, they get $25K per year. I never heard of the mother’s income minus taxes thing. Interesting.

Man, talk about riding the gravy train. I wish I were a woman. As I understand it, it works like this: I get knocked up, and take one guy’s money & kid. Then I find another guy, take his money and kid, etc. If my uterus were up to it, I could have six guys paying me for their kids? Sweet!

Because living off child support is the sweet life. That’s why you see so many single mothers who draw child support and work low-wage jobs driving Ferraris and living in mansions, and laughing it up in Monaco casinos with Hollywood stars.

I don’t understand why these people who are paying support and claim to be really concerned their kids aren’t getting the money don’t challenge for custody.

Ok…
By cranking, I mean that if he doesn’t pay her exactly on the first of the month, she instigates court proceedings, sends him threatening letters, some legally done and some not, and she calls him on his cell phone at all hours screaming so loudly that I have heard every word she says even when I am standing on the other side of the room.
He works very hard at his own business, and sometimes he has to pay her a few days after the fact because he had to wait for a check or whatever. He has never missed a payment. With her Gloria Allred-like attorney she tries to make a case against him and tries to raise the already ridiculous amount that he already gives her whenever the spirit seems to move her. She uses his past problem with alcohol as a way to gain sympathy, but he has long been sober (four years as of this august) and he still has no chance of gaining custody at this point.
She has 3 children, the youngest of which is my son’s. Her two other kids were the result of an early marriage (according to my calculations, she must have been 17). Everyone around here except for me thinks that her pregnancy is fine and why am I so upset about it.
Todays unwanted neglected child is tomorrow’s criminal/rapist/misfit/depression case. Take your pick. It’s going to be a long haul.
Thanx for your feedback. I just need to rant.

You begrudge your own grandchild child support?

Your son needs to associate with a better class of women or learn some self control. And since the mother of his child is such a loser, he needs to make sure he stays involved in that child’s life.

How do you suppose her landlord feels when she’s just a few days late with the rent? Do you suppose her bank waives her overdraft fees when she’s just a few days late covering her cheques?

Yeah, whenever I have to pay my credit card bill a few days after the fact, they’re always sweetness, light, and understanding.

In Ohio at least, it’s done on a worksheet based on estimated annual cost of the child(ren), the parents’ combined income, and then a percentage of responsibility for the annual cost is assigned to each parent based on their percentage of the combined income. (Hence the incentive to earn less/have more kids- you get more support!). By the time they adjust her income (her new spouse’s income and all the public support they receive are not relevant, apparently), I get 86% of the cost of raising the kids. (Here’s the cite Section 3119.022 - Ohio Revised Code | Ohio Laws , scroll down to No. 8 for the tax break)

Under our shared parenting, I pay for insurance, have the kids about 40% of the time (2.5 days every week of year, every other week in summer), pay 75% of their uncovered medical funds (I actually pay 100%, but by order- 75%), and 26% of my net still goes for child support (factoring in the insurance; it’s actually about 21% cash, 5% for insurance).

I’m seeking custody now, for other reasons (drunken stepdad, domestic violence, etc.). If I get custody of one but not both children, my support will decrease (the cash portion) by 20%. If I get custody of both children, her support to me will be a total of 20% of the cash I pay now to her. I’ll still carry insurance for both kids regardless of where they are. Apparently time spent in home is almost irrelevant in the calculation…until you cross the 51/49% barrier and become the “primary custodial parent” in the shared time arrangement.

The paragraph at the top of this page explains it much better. Ohio Child Support Chart | DivorceNet