So, it’s appropriate for you to accuse him of yelling even when he has stated that this wasn’t the case? That’s ridiculous.
Another in a long line of posts that lead me to believe you haven’t read much of this thread. I have no earthly idea what in the world you’re talking about.
You’re backpedaling hard, and probably need to drop it.
That’s precisely what I’m trying to say.
You may think it’s ridiculous. Other people here, besides me, seem to think it’s not ridiculous to perceive that he’s overreacting. I’m not saying you’re wrong, necessarily; I’m just saying that there are AT LEAST two sides to every story like this, and his is only one of them.
Like I said, I’ve read the whole thread. You are free to agree with me, or not. But to accuse me of lying is bullshit.
Ummm, no, I’m not backpedaling. I am reading between the lines, and maybe you’re not understanding me. And admittedly maybe I will turn out to be wrong in the end, and maybe none of us will never know what happened. BUt I’d appreciate if you’d knock off the bullshit accusations of lying.
You’re so far off point it isn’t even funny. From the beginning of this exchange, I have maintained that it was inappropriate for you to accuse him of something he flat out said he didn’t do. I have shown this to be the case quite plainly. Perceptions have nothing at all to do with it.
Nope. See post #133.
I will stop accusing you of being dishonest when you stop accusing people of doing things they said did not take place.
Wow. I’m glad I’m not in any sort of personal relationship with you.
I said it was possible that he had shown anger without even realizing it. That’s a hell of a long way from an accusation. You weren’t there, either; you have nothing but his own self-serving words as proof that he didn’t raise his voice.
You may disagree about the appropriateness of my remarks. Too bad - as I said before, I am entitled to my opinions, and you are entitled to disagree with them. But to accuse me of acting in bad faith is bullshit.
How mature.
No you didn’t. You need to go back and read post #118 again. When you’re done there, go read post #133.
You seem to have grasped what a disagreement entails. Congrats.
It is more than likely that I am interpreting the events in the OP based on my own experiences. As a kid, I remember my mother coming home from work to cook dinner, and then my dad walking in with a pizza. As kids, did we say “gee, mom is already making a nutritious, healthy dinner after her hard day at work?” No, we said “YAY PIZZA IS AWESOME!” And my dad was doing it deliberately to set himself up as the fun parent, and my mom as the boring parent. Which I think we can agree is a dick thing to do. (FWIW, I think my dad was a great parent, but that was not one of his high points.)
The OP said none of that, but when I read it, the tone (both of the OP, and of my general impression of leaffan’s previous posts) made me immediately think of the pizza issue … so my reaction is colored by that, I’m sure.
You seem to lack a certain comprehension of the word “if,” and of conditional clauses. Nowhere have I stated with certainty that the OP yelled. And even if he didn’t yell, there are plenty of other ways to piss off one’s spouse, as evidenced by her behavior. I have no way of knowing who was justified in doing what, and let’s face it, neither do you.
I don’t have the time for this crap right this minute. I’ve already spent more time here today than I should. But few things piss me off than accusations of dishonesty.
Guys, things are getting a bit heated for IMHO. Please move any further argument to the Pit. Thanks.
The “if” referred to you, not Leaffan. The two bolded words are far more important.
Which is it?
Just saw this, Giraffe. Will do.
The two are not mutually exclusive. My inclination, from the information presented, is to believe that Leaffan was expressing more perceptible anger than he thinks he was. That doesn’t mean that I’m lying; it means that I interpret the available information differently than you do. If you still think I’m lying, feel free to take it to the Pit as Giraffe suggested.
I have never accused you of lying.
Also, I’m pretty sure Giraffe said to continue this in the Pit. He didn’t say “continue in the pit only if you want to call Eva Luna a liar”.
Just wanted to point out a small detail…in the post linked earlier, Leaffan says he’s from Scotland. We might want to take that into consideration when getting upset about his use of the the “c” word, as I understand it’s much more common and not at all a big deal in the UK like it is here. I hate that word as much as anybody (can’t even bring myself to type it, hah!), and I’m not defending his name-calling at all, but just to put it into context…
Well, in any case, as nothing I say seems to change your opinion of my intentions, I’m done with you in this thread, so it’s probably irrelevant.
Closing this trainwreck.