Pizza, what is a Dethy related setup, in simple words.
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would someone mind quoting these 5 “investigations” if possible?
or maybe i don’t have to go back very far to see what you are talking about?
Meaning?
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[li]1 Mafia Goon[/li][li]1 Sane Cop[/li][li]1 Insane Cop[/li][li]1 Paranoid Cop[/li][li]1 Naive Cop[/li][/ul]
Mafia- makes up their results. In other words, lies.
Sane cop- Normal cop.
Insane cop- Backwards from a normal cop, still useful albeit misleading
Paranoid Cop- Always gets guilty. Not useful, misleading.
Naive Cop- Always gets innocent. Not useful, misleading.
Because I got 5 results and only 1 is guilty, assuming Dethy, that **proves nothing about gnarlycharlie, and it also means that the Insane cop got a innocent result. Which means they found a scumbag, reading as “innocent” because that cop is insane.
**That’s what makes Dethy interesting. You can solve the game even with this nonsense going on.
See, I’m helping. Kinda.
Have you provided anything at all substantial to this game? Have you done any scum hunting or are you content with casting votes for essentially no reason and then just talking about mechanics the rest of the time that you actually do post? If we lynch outside the claim you’re a great target.
Quick question for Gadarene and / or Idle Thoughts.
Since Idle is a moderator, do you think you could let him modify the player post to add in all the substitutions? It’s easy enough to find your post now, but I’m thinking further down the line.
Too lazy to look back. It’s been a long day. Why do you think there is a wolf within the 5 scanned?
Idle reports Dancecat as Town
Giraffe got Blaster as Town
Scuba got Silver Jan as Town
Weedy got Texcat as Town (and Mason)
Silver Jan got gnarlycharlie as Wolf
I know that SilverJan’s result is false and Weedy’s is true, but I know nothing about SilverJan and Weedy. And I have no reason to believe that Scuba, Giraffe, or Idle are lying. I think I remember that you think Pwe need at least 2 wolf responses, but I don’t remember the logic here.
Nor can we assume that all of the peek results are in evidence yet.
Sane cop – Weedy results.
Insane cop – Idle, Giraffe, or Scuba got a town result on a scum.
Naive cop – Any besides Silver.
Paranoid cop – Silver
Goon cop – Any.
“The player post” meaning the one at the beginning of the thread, post 2 or 3 or wherever.
given we don’t know very much, mechanics of the game is quite a good thing to talk about, particularly if there are claims, we need to test those claims about what we do know about mechanics of the game. It is also a possible area for people to reveal perfect information.
Article on how to nearly solve the game right away using the claims. This only works for the classic 5-person setup, but the principles do apply here. 1 guilty and 4 innocent results are highly unusual events. Very unusual, because it means that the insane cop scored, by definition. And the sane cop found a townie, too.
If this is not a Dethy setup, then I can’t be certain.
However, if this is not a Dethy setup, then gnarlycharlie is likely guilty.
You and I both don’t believe that.
Assuming Dethy, by definition, 4 innocent results and 1 guilty means that the only way that this happened is that the sane cop got a townie result and the insane cop found a scumbag and ALSO got a townie result because it is backward.
There is no other way to achieve that outcome.
Assuming Dethy, 1/4 of those “innocent” results are guilty, and 2 of the 5 results have claimed mason, and have some other evidence in their favor.
That means 1/3 are likely guilty.
Does anyone disagree with the logic? Granted, I don’t know if it’s Dethy or not, BUT IF IT IS, I AM CORRECT, right?
That’s a good idea. If Idle wants to keep post #3 (and only post #3! 
) updated with substitutions, he’s welcome to do so as long as he makes it clear which players have been substituted for as well.
I agree with this. But also take into account that ScubaBen reports SilverJan as town. If we agree with this then either DanceCat or Blaster is scum. If ScubaBen received the bad results, and he is town and SilverJan scum, then why did SilverJan start this whole kerfuffle?
To simplify and illustrate
Here are the results we actually got:
Sane cop- scanned a townie, true result (Villager)
Naive cop- Always gets townie results (Villager)
Paranoid cop- Always gets guilty results (Gnarlycharlie is scum)
Mafia cop- lies or tells the truth, either way, they claimed (Villager) which MEANS
Insane cop- only gets innocent results when they found scum (Villager)
Which means the Insane cop found a **guilty **person. That’s the only way that works under Dethy. It also means Gnarly-as-scum is a **null-tell **and by the odds alone, he’s probably innocent.
Now, we don’t know which “innocent” villager is guilty, we just know that one of them is under Dethy rules. I’ll assume that for now because it makes sense and there are exactly 5 claims, and I do not buy 5 Sane cop seers.
Feel free to disagree that it’s a Dethy-like setup, it may not be. But if it is, I’m correct.
Dunno.
I agree that DanceCat or Blaster is scum. My vote is on Dancecat because s/he got votes early on in the first round, and Silver Jan and TexCat ended up getting pushed ahead of DanceCat in the vote totals during that same round, which implies the scumbags were trying to save him/her.
That’s not much of a case, but out of the 1:3 that I’m looking at, it’s fairly damning.
If not DanceCat, then Blaster methinks. Maybe Silver Jan. Sort of 50/50 on those if Dance flips townie.
I’d recommend our poisoner take care of Silver Jan, and then get some data on Blaster tomorrow with votes.
Or they could take care of Blaster, not sure. I think the poisoner should decide, not have anyone dictate it to them.
By the way, the whole rest of that group is very likely innocent if we lynch the scumbag among them today.
That’s why it’s really important we get this right. It will shatter the mafia team’s spirits and give us extreme advantages.
Does this mean that you will be targeting Silver Jan tonight? If you, in fact, targeted Mahaloth last night, then I think it is more likely that you are the poisoner than the vig.
I’m not sure any of this is likely. I think it equally likely that Pizza is poisoner, unidentified role, and wolf.
I am almost 100% sure I am not the poisoner role, and I am willing to target whoever in order to prove it. Myself if necessary. But I’ll target any of Blaster, Jan, Dance, Tex, or Gnarly if that’s what it takes to solve this.
I believe the poisoner is on a delay and got lucky on night zero. Odds are against but hey, it happens.
Why didn’t lilflower die when I targeted her N0 as the other person before I joined the game? That means I’m not likely a poisoner, and the standard vig is dead.