Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

Infered from results and teh wording of the results

Also received a roile PM for the Apothecary, but with my name at the beginning. For reasons mentioned, I do not beleve that is my role, but beleive it is helpful for town to knwo one of has that role and the mechanism of the role.
unless we have some of insane role teller, who tells the target another random role of the same alingement.

Special ed - did you get your role last night or night one?

Keeping you around is a horrible move? Good to know.

After lynching ATPG, boil him in oil of newt and shoot him into the sun. Just to be sure.

(You did get that that was a joke, right? The orange color and all? I’m not that unfunny, right?)

(I think Septimus was, too, btw. I think.)

Lunch is always good, Pizza anyone?

I took a closer look at** Normal Phase**. These are from my notes so sorry for not having links for all of them. These are not all of her posts, either. I just pulled vote-related ones and/or what I thought were key posts. If I’m taking anything out of context, please let me know.

Day 2:
1157: Normal votes Giraffe (she thinks?)

1159: Normal says she has more reasons for her vote on Giraffe but she’s busy [I don’t recall her coming back with any more reasons, though. Did I miss it?]
1506: Normal says “There is no way I’m going to be able to catch up before Tuesday (see other game’s thread). Have some good bandwagons for me to choose from, is all I can say”
2186: Normal says “Anything else I’m missing? I’m skimming like nobody’s business even on the pages I’ve read.”
2209: Normal unvotes; votes brewha; says “The one that pinged me the most is brewha, but I’ll vote for any of them [Dancecat, BlaM, PCM, Inner Stickler]”; regarding brewha’s vote on Jan: This is a terrible vote. It completely dodges responsibility for whether or not SilverJan is actually scum, rationalizing her lynch purely on the basis of informational gain that is not all that certain anyway and could actively be detrimental to town if the Dethy theory is true and Silver Jan is insane (that’s the reverse one, right)? [Why not vote for Drain Bead, then? I asked this earlier toDay but have not gotten a response.]
2272: Normal unvotes; votes **BlaM **[bringing him up to 4 votes; this is one of the few things she’s done that makes me think she might be town but with the wagon only at 4 votes, she could have felt safe in voting for a scum buddy.]

This just doesn’t seem like the Normal Phase I am used to. She did make a few posts toDay that had lots of quotes and analysis and I thought “now that is who I’m used to playing with” but then she goes right back to what she’s been doing throughout this game which is very lazy voting. And her response to brewha saying “WTF?” about her vote is:

Again, a total lack of explanation and really sort of dismissive of the questioning altogether, I think.

I see a lot of indecision, uncertainty and willingness to jump on any bandwagon. I know this is probably meta-gamey but this is making me think she is scum.

I’m still suspicious of sangaman but I’d like to get this vote on record as well.

unvote sangaman
vote Normal Phase

On preview I see that she has responded to my questioning of her vote. I’ll take a look at that now.

But again, you are dismissing your vote and saying your opinion hardly seems to matter. Why doesn’t it matter? What difference does the timing of your vote have on whether or not **brewha **is poisoned? He’s been poisoned all Day. And if you are not convinced **brewha **should be lynched, why are you voting for him?

In the first vote post above, you made it sound like both were equally scummy. So are you now saying they are not? If so, what changed your mind?

By the way, did the board just go down for anyone else? And did anyone else just post to the sign up thread instead of this one? :smack:

What is the alignment of the apothecary?

Nevermind. I see you already told us it was town.

Gah, I am so not in the mood today for being questioned.

No, IIRC by the time I got here on Tuesday it seemed to be wasted effort, with votes on Giraffe that had come and gone, a huge wagon on Scuba Ben, and the Day almost over. When I read the last few pages I saw brewha’s vote on Silver Jan and found that worse than anything I remembered from Giraffe, regardless.

Drain Bead voted Silver Jan? I don’t know what you’re referring to here.

How generous.

Acting “weird” as with that brewha vote, isn’t scummy. It’s just weird. I have plenty of reasons for weird today, and none of them have anything to do with this game.

Are you serious? Do I really have to go through another whole game getting crap about vote changes? I know you have a tendency to vote on this kind of stuff, but that doesn’t make it any less annoying.

Can you clarify this? Whose vote for what tie?

Because sangaman is going to be lynched. I haven’t done a vote count, but I think he’s up by a large margin.

Because I find him to be scummy enough to die. I’m not convinced that Pizza’s concern about the apothecary saving him is enough to “waste” a lynch on someone who is likely to die anyway, and I think Idle is just plain off his rocker (but what else is new). But since it seems hugely unlikely to matter to the outcome either way, I may as well vote for him.

You’re either selectively snipping or just plain didn’t read all my posts. I don’t know what I could have said to leave the impression I thought sangaman was equally scummy to brewha. I never said anything about him greater than “good enough”, and I’ve never voted for him. I have voted for brewha (before now).

I don’t understand this. The posts you quoted were about your vote on Giraffe so what does that have to do with your vote on brewha at this point in the Day?

Drain Bead voted for Silver Jan for the same reasons that brewha did and did it before brewha. I’m wondering why you didn’t call her out for the same reasons.

No problem.

I didn’t say you were acting weird. I said you were being dismissive. I see now that you have responded but I still have issues with your response.

This isn’t about vote changes. It’s about not taking accountability for the votes you are making and saying that they don’t matter. And “what kind of stuff” do I have a “tendency to vote on”?

If I recall correctly, there were about 847 votes placed in the last couple hours of Day 2. I don’t think we can say that anyone is a sure lynch with over 24 hours to go Today.

Lightfoot is calling you scummy for vote changes? :confused: Whenever I play with you, you average, as Townie, 6+ vote changes per day, so I was going to call you scummy for lack of vote changes.
(Also a joke, BTW)

And as I bask in the glow of being semi-confirmed Townie :cool: … I get Vig-targetting requests because of my joking. :frowning:
Yes, my posting level is low. My few posts do contain questions … usually that don’t get answered.

Oops. :frowning: :eek:
s/Lightfoot/lilflower/

Day doesn’t end until toMorrow and yesterDay’s voting was going until the last minute. I don’t think sangaman is a lock at this point.

I assume you are talking about **brewha **here. How do you reconcile thinking he is scummy enough to die but that you don’t want to lynch him? Once again, you say your opinion doesn’t matter (why is that?) and you think **Idle **is off his rocker but you are voting for the same player he is.

When I read the underlined part, it seemed to me that you had an equally scummy read on both. Is that not true?

No, that’s not why I’m calling **Normal **scummy. And now she’s twisting my words which is only making me more suspicious.

Eh?
While I do find Brewha suspicious and would be happy voting for him, I am currently voting for Sangaman, not Brewha.

Are you looking at the context of the quotes you pulled, yourself? You’re asking me why I didn’t follow up on Giraffe yesterDay. I’m telling you that I missed (AFK) the vast majority of that Day. When I did get back, on Tuesday, I saw that people had both voted and unvoted Giraffe, leaving the bandwagon at just me and peeker. It looked like wasted effort to go digging up all my reasons from three days ago under those circumstances. I looked through recent posts instead and found brewha’s Silver Jan vote scummy, and voted for him. What is so hard to understand about this?

Well for starters, I didn’t see it and still haven’t. If you have a link I’ll take a look.

Stuff I vehemently disagree is scummy. I rarely agree with you on votes.

But you are deliberately trying to take me wrong, you have to be. Why would anyone, town, scum or otherwise, ever say even in jest that their vote doesn’t matter? My vote is unlikely to matter to the outcome of today’s vote, not in general. Does not compute.

OK, I’m taking a break. I need someone else to look at this and tell me if my OMGUS-dar needs adjusting, but this just looks deliberately obtuse.

Back this evening, I think.

Sorry that wasnt clear

Please see post 2743 which shows the vote timing of yesterdays votes

Blastermaster was on 8 votes (Idle being the 8th) then the Inner Stickler roll started, with Brewha posting the 8th vote to tie it, followed by BlasterMaster to put IS in the lead, Peeker and pwnsall pushed it the other way (so obviously I am leaning town on pwnsall, peeker was town, alas no longer with us)
post 2743 , that was 600 post ago, on the same game day.