I don’t know if anyone is still interested, but I’ve finally managed to finish going through all of NAF1138’s posts, along with **pwnsall **and Episkey from earlier. I haven’t had a chance to to back to look in depth at a few things that piqued my curiosity, but off the top of my head my feelings are Episkey: leaning Town.
He had a lot of posts early on about game mechanics, and quite a few asking about certain people’s playstyles (does **peeker **think he’s an easy mislynch, is **Giraffe **a frequent mislynch, etc.) That could either be Scum trying to suss out easy targets, or it could be Town trying to figure out who the Scum think are easy targets. I believe his claim at the moment, or at least I believe that he believes what he’s telling us. pwnsall: undecided
He subbed in for **Timelady **near the beginning of Day 2. Almost all of Timelady’s posts were related to game mechanics, and she never commented on any of the Day 1 vote leaders at all, instead voting for Sister Coyote for “innocuous posting”. that had me leaning Scum. But pwnsall has been much more 'involved. He cast the last vote on Blaster Master, and I haven’t seen anything Today that stands out as Scummy. So I’m torn on my opinions between the two players who have shared this role NAF1138: leaning slightly Scum
He too has made a lot of posts talking about game theory and machanics. He voiced the ‘bad idea’ on Day 1, but I think that was a null tell. He seemed to be swaying in the breeze on Day 2 between Blaster Master and Inner Stickler. I need to review the timeline there, not just of the votes themselves but of some oe the supporting posts. At this point, I have a ‘bad feeling’, but I don’t know if that will be borne out by closer scrutiny.
Ok, I want to call bullshit here. Plankton isn’t the first person to say something like this (I don’t think). But it isn’t true. I was trying my damndest to get EITHER BlaM OR Stickler lynched. I was pushing both wagons and I was voting with whichever I thought had the best chance of taking off.
NO ONE was listening to me about BlaM until Normal Phase joined in. By that point I had already moved on to try to push the Stickler lynch which again NO ONE LISTENED TO. So as by that time people had started to pick up on the case THAT I FUCKING MADE against BlaM I moved back to BlaM.
No shifting in the wind. No following the crowd. It was my case that got BlaM lynched and it was likely my pushing that got people to join in the Stickler wagon. I was on both for most of the time I was around. I was vocal about both, I was pushing hard for both.
Having gone over the timeline rather closely, it does seem that what you are saying here is likely true. You started off on Blaster Master, then switched to Inner Stickler after Texcat’s Post 2232. After that wagon failed to take off you went back to BlaM, but continued to push for an **Inner **lynch right up until you signed off for the Day. It was only after you were gone that the **Inner **bandwagon really caught steam.
It is *possible *that you were bussing BlaM, tried to get an **Inner **wagon going and failed, and then were unable to rejoin it once it caught fire at the end of the Day. But there’s no good evidence to suggest that is a more plausible explanation that what you have just given.
I’m not clearing you, but I won’t be voting for you Today.
so you think you can resolve the Jan vs Gnarly issue over lunch and we’re having pizza?
why do you feel it’s wrong? you have the full PM like Ed and I. are you saying you then received someone else’s role? meaning the role PM was redirected to you.
Don’t know if it’s been answered, episkey = jimhalpert
Pizza’s weird. He’s been pretty pro-villa but makes some strange posts which I completely disagree with then he’ll state something along the lines of there’s no way anyone is changing his mind. Stuff like dethy setups and maybe vote wagons, can’t remember exactly. I think he’s just a stubborn villager fwiw.
Watcher probably already knows their role by now so it’s not like he can be hoping the watches are in the dark about anything. I’d imagine he’s legit. If pizza is a poisoner as he is (was?) claiming before, I don’t see a ton of value in the watchers just targeting the suspected village poisoner. Seems like we get much more information if they target players who have been present but sort of utr and outside of all the claims.
I’m just catching up after a few days so don’t mind me if any of this has been addressed.
Sorry - I was thinking of your **brewha **vote (which did happen at some point toDay, right)? I thought that was what **Normal **was talking about, too. My mistake.
Thing is if pizza is a wolf, it doesn’t matter if the watchers target him, there’s no way a wolf is going to be targeting fellow wolf pizza to kill him. So whoever is likely to target pizza will be a villa (if pizza is a wolf) and draw suspicion to themselves.
Pizza’s already basically outed his role as a poisoner so if he’s a wolf and he poisons another villager, he can just claim that person looked wolfy to him. Watcher can verify who pizza targeted but we don’t actually learn anything new.
This doesn’t really make pizza a wolf, but if he is a wolf it’s not at all dangerous for him to want the village watchers to target him.
Yeah, I was voting for him earlier toDay (for also finding him suspicious) but switched to Sanga after the “9 scum” comment.
I do agree with you that it seems foolish and odd NOW to vote Brewha when Sanga has that big of a lead (whereas I can justify, to myself, my own vote on Brewha earlier in the sense that nobody else had any votes at the time).
Can somebody reiterate the reasons why it’s unlikely pizza is a wolf poisoner? Something is tickling the edge of my brain, and maybe that’ll help shake it loose.
I also noticed some people talking about me earlier, but I can’t find it now. If you had any questions you wanted me to address, could you point me in the right direction?
I’m not being purposely obtuse. I really don’t understand what you are saying in these two posts so I’m asking for clarification. And I’m sorry if I’m bugging you and you don’t feel like being questioned but this is mafia.
As for the comment about Idle, I guess I don’t see how it fits in now. I was thinking you were commenting on his brewha vote. If not, then what makes him off his rocker?
And it really does sound to me like you in one post you are saying brewha should not be lynched and in another that you think he is scummy enough to die. I see this as a contradiction so I’m just asking you to clarify what you are saying.
My point here (which I guess was not clear) was that you made a vote on **Giraffe **and said “I think” which supports my assertion that you are not really taking accountability for your votes. Your response to that originally makes sense as it relates to the above, but not for the original vote with the disclaimer of “I think.”
So you vehemently disagree it’s scummy to place votes with a disclaimer like “I think” and "The one that pinged me the most is brewha, but I’ll vote for any of them [Dancecat, BlaM, PCM, Inner Stickler]”.
And every vote does count, whether because it leads to someone’s lynch or leaves a record of who you thought was scummy. You seem to be dismissing the fact that any case you make or vote you make toDay has any bearing on the game. You seem to be like “oh well, here’s my vote, I’m sort of sure I want to place it but if something else comes along, I might vote there, too.”
You are usually a player who puts in a lot of analysis on a case and makes a vote and doesn’t care if it’s a bandwagon or not. That is what is pinging me. You even say this at one point (which I just find very out of character for you as a town player):
So you seem to playing just enough not to be lurking, you are admittedly skimming and then placing votes with little to no accountability or confidence. It seems out of character for you as a town player.
If anyone else cares to defend Normal, I am all ears.
I think someone also mentioned the possibility of a re-director. So the re-director could have directed **ATPG **onto **Mahaloth **and **ATPG **is saying he targeted **Mahaloth **to get town cred.
Alright guys, I don’t know if I’ll be posting before EOD. I’ll keep an eye on the thread via my carppy phone, but it’s very clunky to post with.
One last plea for the apothecary to heal me. I cross my heart that I am not a wolf. Stick a needle in my eye!
If nothing else, it’s a great way to test and prove your role. No need to out yourself, but if you see fit to spare a bit of your antidote, I’ll be grateful.
