Eff that. Gad knew that he was subbing in a former player.
Does this make sense?
On Night 0, you target peeker so that means on Night 1, you mimic peeker and act as a lightning rod
On Night 1, you are a lightning rod and you target Ed so you are both mimicking peeker and getting Ed’s power for Night 2
On Night 2, you are a power doubler and you target yourself so you are both mimicking Ed and giving yourself two targets for Night 3.
On Night 3, you are still mimicking a power doubler because that is what you still are (because you targeted a power doubler on Night 2) so you get your two targets who get the mimicked treatment (which is the double targets).
On Night 4, you are mimicking lilflower and Normal Phase and target Lightfoot I as both lilflower and Normal Phase.
On Night 5, you are mimicking Lightfoot I (so is it possible you could find the other Mason?)
There was some concern that I (LightFeet LF2) would have more information coming in as a sub than I should.
LightFoots Night action holds no water if they had targetted the queen of England or the man in the moon (since dead people get no results)
And I’ll comment not again on anything my former self did/didn’t do that isn’t typed here already in black and white. Fair enough?
I have to admit that I am confused at this point and I’m not so sure about my NAF vote anymore. I hate to not vote but I really don’t know if I’ll have time to do any real analysis before the end of the Day. I’ll try to check in this weekend but I’m not making any promises. My porch and my grill and a bottle if wine are calling . . .
You know what.
**
unvote**
Process of elimination be damned, I don’t feel comfortable with the vote for pwn until I am able to actually make a case.
vote crackedquads
Even if I think you are better than average odds on being town, the cultural differences that would even allow you to present the case that you have brought forward are enough to give me pause. Your pursuit of the case against solid reasoning is the only thing that is making me think town. The insistence that either I or Episkey needs to die toDay though I think Episkey is town and I have been claimed as town by a claimed investigator…I don’t like policy lynches, but I think you are actively hurting town and are maybe scum. I have a low level of confidence about your scumminess, but I high level of confidence about your anti town behavior and that is good enough for me right now.
So yeah, I am voting for someone on my probable town list. I don’t know that I care. I am still the odds on favorite to be lynched because of the holiday.
Reminder of EOD and a vote count please? I know I am being lazy, but whoever posts these things will be my best friend.
Let me elaborate.
In my experience, in our board culture, only townies really actively pursue cases that have been pointed out to be flawed. Scum back off of them right away. But I don’t know you, and I don’t actually know that that is as reliable a townie tell for you as it would be for any of the players I know. Everything else about you screams that you are going down the exact same path as BlaM was.
OK, something stinks here. I need to go back and read all the doubling claims to see what assumptions they depend on, but I’m starting to suspect the whole thing is made up. What’s pinging me like crazy right now: Normal’s matter of fact assertion that lilflower was doubled last Night. Between Dawn and this post, I can’t find a single statement by lilflower to that effect.
Two posts later, Normal goes on to restate this (with a “or should have” semi-backpedal) in a near-simulpost with lilflower confirming that she was doubled:
Why would you flat out assert something about the results of another player’s Night action? This really looks like two Wolves making stuff up to me, possibly in cahoots with NAF, I haven’t decided yet.
I need to go back and reread the whole power doubling thing and see what confirmation we have on that, but in the meantime please answer this.
To give you some added incentive, I’ll put a vote out there while I wait for answers and/or do my background reading:
vote Normal Phase
bleached (because I remembered)
Not to defend a player who’s alignment I don’t know, but I am breaking all sorts of personal mafia playing rules this game already, so why not.
Do you not think that her essentially driving the lynch of BlaM, and driving it hard when it looked like he wasn’t going to be lynched is strong evidence of her townieness.
Okay. I’m having major trouble parsing a lot of things.
So NAF copies ed’s power. The next Night, he can give his target two targets the following Night.
He targets himself. He can now choose two targets the following Night.
Wouldn’t he then be reverting back to his original power? So instead of passing ed’s power along, the following Night he should be stealing two powers, because he should be back to being a Mimic, having targeted himself. Does that make sense?
Oh good lord, Giraffe. I claimed “for” lilflower because I was doubled myself, I had no reason to doubt NAF’s claim that lilflower was his other target and every reason to believe that NAF’s role worked more or less like he said it did, regardless of alignment.
I have no time to speak of; I’m mostly here because I was reminded a couple of hours ago that it’s Labor Day Weekend and I could well miss the entire rest of the Day. Again. I’ll try to check in, I just don’t know.
So if NAF mimics me N1
On N2 NAF is me for all effects
On N2 NAF targets himself and gets my power (his current power) again for N3
But the first post of yours I quoted had you offering the fact that you and lilflower were doubled was evidence that Drain Bead could be lying about having been doubled herself. No confusion about a possible redirect from lilflower to Drain Bead, just a flat out statement of facts you had no way of knowing? That seems oddly…trusting, doesn’t it?
i love this game!
special, I agree, there is some weird shit going on here, and I think we learn a lot as today moves on.
well Episkey, we know his role too, so we should lynch you right?
cracked: I am pretty sure it was special that pointed this out, but there is a very legitimate reason a wolf would call him a villager there. After the villager gets mislynched, there is a wolf to say “i told you so”. the funny part is, you just watched a whole bunch of us do something quite similar in the game that just ended on POG.
if this is true, then NAF should mimic zeriel and then mimic himself every night he can stay alive.
My general thoughts AORN: cracked is a wolf. He just had a really good game in the game that just ended on our other forum, I dont really have a history with him, but he seems like he has a brain.
I am not sure how things play out on this forum, but when a seer claims, we have a saying, “let the wolves resolve it for us”. If Zeriel is a seer, the wolves HAVE TO KILL HIM, or they just let him clear villager after villager, or find wolf after wolf until he wins the game.
Cracked should certainly understand this. He instead completely ignores it and continues to ride NAF. What he should have done is unvote and move on quietly.
He didnt. He is probably a wolf.
I want to say Episky is a wolf too, but I cant understand why he would give himself up for one mislynch.
vote crackedquads
someone let me know if I voted incorrectly please.
Difficult to quote on my phone while drinking…
2 things
First
**Vote: crackedQ **
Second
NAF cannot keep mimicking himself due to the no repeating target rule
So while trying to start a wagon on someone I know to be a wolf, half of you come out of the woodwork and try to lynch me. This is hilarious in a very sad way.
I won’t out this yet because I’m almost positive my target was a wolf. If you’re got results on me for n3 then you know who I’m talking about and if I don’t out who I targeted before I get mislynched, keep this in mind when I flip.
So you think by continuing to push my read despite them having “been pointed out to be flawed” I’m a villager, except I’m not actually from this board so I’m a wolf? Seriously? I know you’re a wolf but even you can do better than this.
JD obviously I know how seer claims work. You must not be paying much attention because I responded to special ed about this already and agreed with him that my initial response was probably not thought through very well.
First of all
A) You’re assuming zeriel is actually a seer
B) You’re assuming zeriel is a true seer. All of zeriel’s claimed results have been player x = villager. She could very well be a naive seer.
C) Zeriel outs this information amidst me pushing two very likely wolves as hard as a can. This is similar to what Idle has done wrt to NAF, to jump in and claim naf = villager after naf was already peek messaged as a wolf. You can’t just take zeriel’s claim at face value.
And wrt to your first quote, I’ve also already addressed that. Me and episkey aren’t actually agreeing on anything. The original poster AGREES WITH THIS and says I misunderstood, and that he simply thinks we’re both in agreement in thinking that we’re going to be killed off soon. Which apparently I’m at least right about that. Are you deliberately taking multiple quotes out of context or are you just not reading more than one post that catches your eye? I pegged you wolf in the inception and I can probably do it again so feel free to keep on talking to me.
Don’t just sponge others, I’d love an actual reason from you.
Well, it’d be easy for you to, say, stop acting like a scummy scum scum.
Actually fuck it I don’t care. N3 I targeted lilflower because I think she’s a wolf. My action yielded no apparent result.
Once you guys kill me off here’s my wolf list
NAF
Normal Phase
Lilflower
Lock it up. Maybe you’ll actually read my fucking posts if I use pretty colors for you.
My scumminess:
- Wolfhunt for players after idle spews himself as a wolf with his slip up
- Find a player I’m almost lock positive to be a wolf - NAF
- Push NAF relentlessly, then get a read that Normal = wolf after he tries to soft defend NAF.
Yeah, sorry I haven’t been more villagery?
The idea it’s amazingly imperative to kill NAF before I am likely killed tonight (revealing my role and sanity) is what’s scummy.