At this point I agree it’s very likely, down from certain. The possibility of someone interfering with my messages must be acknowledged.
[QUOTE=Giraffe;14213584NAF is the one who is believed to be a mimic, right? But he hasn’t claimed to have targeted pizza. If he’s a Wolf mimic, then this would make sense: the scum would want pizza’s poisoning power to kill an extra Townie the next Night.[/QUOTE]
The other possibility is that NAF targeted PizzaGuy on the night PizzaGuy was modkilled. We won’t know without accurate info of NAF’s target list.
On the other hand, I have maintained that one of them has to be true, with no indication about the other message.
You claiming Seer and an investigation of NAF being Town certainly changes my position. I think it’s necessary to lynch Episkey to resolve the two messages Pizza reported.
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unvote NAF1138
vote Episkey**
I feel it’s more necessary to resolve that situation than pursue CQ. Your mileage may vary.
AOP: I agree with Suburban; a concise listing of targets by night from the top lynch candidates would be very desirable.
Thank you, Scathach. I am inept and find it very time-consuming to search this ultra-long thread.
It’s too late to organize a mass claim toDay, but I agree crackedquads should claim. I even mentioned much earlier toDay that I’d consider Unvoting if he claimed.
The point about non-forced claiming is that any Scum already claiming (whether truthfully or not) without the forced mass reveal are claiming only because it seems in Scums’ interest to do so.
Hmm, I agree that his “insane cop” claim is inconsistent. In at least that for 3 of them he’s claiming to have whispered, but the last one (his own) he received the PM himself.
Which does make a kind of sense actually - because then he could be a scum false alignment whisperer and his last claim to have gotten a false role for himself would just be a poorly done fake. That would help explain his reluctance to admit that they aren’t consistent too.
Alright, I certainly think it’s the best of the wagons today. **vote Episkey **
A mass target claim will give the Scum the information they need to find any protective roles (healthy feels, glows, etc)
Might not be the best idea.
Thoe of us who have reveled that we feel healthy or have a glow, have given enough information for those protective roles to figure out who they are. The Scum don’t need to know.
A lot of that information is already out there. What we do have can help I hope.
I was thinking the players that had ‘something’ happen to them can freely share that information since who ever targetted them knows they did (should not reveal much too the wolves?)
So the reason you’re voting me is because I received the pm myself today, even though its already been explained itt that I targeted pwnsall and was redirected onto myself (making myself receive it) by I think it was Ed?
Call me daft if you must But I guess I don’t quite get your point.
One of me said once that it didn’t have to be an either or for certain, but general consesus is that both can’t live.
Seriously, some people itt have turned their brains off for the day because it’s much easier to say “well, one of them is probably true” and use the “wow, that’s crazy nothing we could have done tho” to rationalize it to themselves after the fact rather than try to figure this whole thing out.
Honestly, I don’t blame them. I’d lynch me in their spot because it’s just a stupid role to have. I don’t blame them for taking the simple explanation. The thing I do get annoyed at is the “well it doesnt make sense because he got a message today!” stuff because it’s been explained multiple times that I was redirected onto myself.
As I’ve said all along, if you think I’m scum for real reasons then vote me. I can explain where your thought processes are wrong in this case and show you evidence why it’s so. But I can’t defend myself against “he received a message today” votes.
What can I do? Nothing really. My role sucks and despite every attempt at working it out with people itt and every protown thing ive done this game, my shitty role means more to others itt than my work.
Now a case is up against cracked, but its pretty meh. Wolves sitting back and laughing at all our v/v/v violence today.
Here’s what we can do though:
Once you lynch me and learn my role is what I say it is, try and figure out how all this shit happened. Don’t sit back and say “wow, there was a message there was nothing we could have done, this game is stupid”. That’s false. You had every chance to work it out with me but you didn’t listen. That’s ok though. Just please, please, PLEASE spend a real life day or something actively going through scenarios on what happened and how it could done so. Maybe I’m just a miller and it’ll be simple. Maybe the wolves can frame someone and it’s more complicated. Maybe Bens message was tampered with some other way. I dont know. But work it out. For the most part everyone here has shown to me that they are intelligent and capable of serious critical thinking. So work it out. We’re in great shape after this mislynch and should be able to process of elimination this down and get a win.
Good luck.
Cracked for self-preservation, but I dont think he’s scum either.
Ok - I take back what I said about being inconsistent. Still seems unlikely to be pro-town though. An insane cop could be pro-town, an insane whisperer doesn’t seem so likely.