National Day of PRAYER and Rememberance

And he wants you on your hands as knees so he can… well, I’ll let you figure out the rest. :slight_smile:

Not so much as a demand as an expectation. He has a difficult time understanding the faithless or the non-Christian. He’ll give them minimal lip service if he has to, but he really doesn’t get it. Getting that difference between people should be one of the strongest qualities in a president. He is sorely lacking in the diversity department.

(But actually, I was making a bit of a blow-job joke. Didn’t work so good I guess.) :smack:

Ah yes, the tyranny of the majority. It’s O.K. because there’s more of you than there are of us. Your atheist friends probably didn’t complain because they were afraid to, and they knew it wouldn’t do any good.

No, it’s OK because it isn’t doing you any harm, no compulsion is involved and therefore no establishment of religion.

Or perhaps they weren’t uptight assholes with a chip on their shoulders.

Regards,
Shodan

That’s right…just keep shoving it down people’s throats. Can’t get 'em to sign up? Just inundate them with it so it kinda…soaks in.

See, that sounds more like the “chip on shoulder” response.

I’ve said before, I’m not religious, never been to church a day in my life. Don’t pray. Never have. But it just doesn’t bother me for the President (any US President) to declare a day of prayer. Or the have the word “God” on money, or any of that shit. I sure as hell ain’t gonna join a religion just so I won’t feel left out on the day of prayer, and I won’t feel put upon that such a day is declared. And I won’t spend the day worrying about it, or feeling persecuted because I won’t pray.

It’s just not that big of a deal to me.

Really, how exactly do you opt out of a general PA announcement telling you to pray - plug your ears?

Just curious - if an atheist principal got on the PA and said there is no God, and a Christian student complained, would he be an “uptight asshole”? Somehow I doubt it.

I dunno, I thought Kalhoun’s response was pretty appropriate to the situation.

Do you believe in God?

No, but I also don’t consider myself an atheist. To me, atheists seem to be as raving as religious fundamentalists. I guess agnostic would be a better description, I just don’t give it much thought one way or another.

Unfortunately, since the President merely mentioning a voluntary day of prayer and remembrance does not constitute “shoving it down people’s throats”, you are talking like one of those intolerant assholes I mentioned earlier.

Well, let me give a couple of pico-seconds of thought - perhaps by not praying?

Here’s a clue for you all - most Americans are doing what Bush suggested anyway. This isn’t hurting you, and it isn’t violating any of your rights. So be a good little intolerant, over-sensitive asshole with a grossly inflated sense of your own importance and can it, m’kay?

You know, diversity, tolerance for differing points of view, blah blah blah, all that donkey shit you folks are always trying to push onto everyone else.

Regards,
Shodan

EVERY day is a day of voluntary day of prayer and remembrance. It’s redundant.

The only intolerance I see in this scenario is religious assholes being unable to grasp the idea that the rest of the country doesn’t need to know what the fuck ridiculous imaginary friend you believe in. If you want to believe it, have at it, dream boy. But the president’s job is to lead the country…not lead us in prayer. Your fuckin’ churches are supposed to take care of that. I don’t give a shit if he mentions it once a year. He’s already doing a shitty job and maybe if he concentrated more on government and less on public announcements of his godliness, we wouldn’t be in the sorry shape we’re in today. Would you pay him to sell ice cream cones? Well, they have exactly as much relevance to governing the country as prayer. Get a fucking clue.

Dumb fuck.

Off to get me a new irony meter. :rolleyes:

Your underlining conveniently stopped before the tolerance portion of my rant. I don’t think I need to point that out to anyone but you.

In what context?

Well, let’s put it thusly. If I were to preface something I had to say about gay marriage with some purple prose about what I think about two fags who want to dress one of them up in nine yards of white lace so they can trip up the aisle and fantasise that this legitimises their ass-fuckery, I don’t think anything I then said would make me look good.

Trivialising pretty much every religious person’s faith by talking about “what the fuck imaginary friend you believe in” is sort of the same thing.

Dude, I don’t have to respect your religion. I just have to respect your right to have one.

That’s true. You’re not obligated to do so.

However, religious people might take such disrespect pretty personally.

Myself, I deal with people of all different faiths, as well as atheists and agnostics. And I prefer to use a very different formulaton:

I respect your faith, or your beliefs. That doesn’t mean I believe in it or follow it.

Great.

So if two fags want to dress one of them up in nine yards of white lace so they can trip up the aisle and fantasise that this somehow legitimises their ass-fuckery, more power to 'em. I respect their right to do it.

This, in your view, is acceptable?

Let’s cut this issue down to brass tacks.

Does the President’s announcement violate any right you have?

Then do something about it. Pluck this “right” of yours off the tree where it grows. Defend it in some meaningful way.

Can’t, can you?

The President’s action violates no law, infringes no right, and is perfectly proper. And you know what? He’s gonna do it AGAIN. And AGAIN. And so will the next President, and the one after him, and the one after that, too.

There is no right without a legal remedy. There is no legal remedy against a President proclamation of the sort we’re discussing here.

Don’t like it? Boo fuckin’ hoo. Cry some more; the daisies can use the water.