Yes we do! And so’s my wife!
We prefer the phrase “Discuss vehemently.”
Please readjust your brain to the new morality as I see it.
I think what some folks are trying to get across is that yes, you’re correct that this is not legal. However, legality takes a back seat when there is no enforcement, or if the court process is not fast enough.
eg.
Trump Declares (illegal) emergency
Some states/areas obey, some don’t,confusion is everywhere
Legal briefs are filed. Lower courts in emergency sessions declare this invalid.
Federal government appeals to higher court - emergency session declares this invalid.
Federal government appeals to Supreme court… The process has now taken days/weeks.
Meantime, the (illegal) state of emergency has accomplished it’s desired outcome; Confusion, some polls open, some not, some votes counted, others held awaiting counts.. etc.
The election is in a complete shambles.
Supreme court meets - declares the emergency that wrecked the election illegal, agreeing with lower courts.
Meanwhile, nobody knows who actually won. This is where the PR campaign kicks into high gear, and the message is that things are so confusing, it’s just best if Trump stays on as president "until this whole confusing mess can be sorted out. Will probably be done in “two weeks”. Or so. Or maybe longer.
“They had a frank and open exchange of views.”
Translation: “The cleaning staff mops up the blood in the morning.”
Piddle, twiddle, and resolve.
I am quite Conservative, but Trump and MAGA are liberal.
I have never trusted Trump and never voted for him. This time around, I’m not voting for any politician who supports Trump or is MAGA.
I may end up voting a straight Libertarian ticket this year.
You’re so cute! Calling Trump and MAGA liberal. How cutting edge!
Vote Libertarian. Better yet, go buy foreign land and create your own libertarian paradise. Those always work out.
There exists no authority in any branch of government to extend a presidential term past its constitutionally-ordained end point. A presidential term is four years, not “until the next president is sworn in”.
I think there’s room in Sealand.
So, you’ve provided a cite that Trump does, in fact, do things that the court tells him he isn’t allowed to do.
Trump is simultaneously the least liberal and least conservative President we’ve ever had.
Yes, we know that. What’s the relevance? Authority isn’t at issue here; power is.
And after Trump’s term expires he will have neither, and if somehow his successor’s election hasn’t been certified by that point, Acting President Jeffries will order the Secret Service to remove that trespasser from his house.
Your belief that a senile, dying 82-year-old who’s hated by two-thirds of the country is going to be able to execute a flawless coup, dissolve the Union, and impose permanent authoritarian rule has no basis in fact or reality.
And your belief that a ruthless fascist who already came within literal inches of executing a coup won’t ever do it again is even more divorced from fact and reality.
And at that point, it will depend on who has more troops at their disposal.
Let’s hope it does not ever come to this. Instead, let’s prepare as best we can for the rat-fuckery that we KNOW that the Republicans are going to attempt. We have to think about all the ways they are going to try to screw things over, in order to prepare for them.
That’s the point - think about it first, so we can prepare counter measures. It does no good to just HOPE that things won’t happed because they are not legal. Of course they are not legal. The Republicans will try them anyway, and hope they can ignore the law and get away with it. To repeat: We need to think of everything in order to prepare counter measures beforehand.
Claiming to vote for the Silly Party? Nobody is buying that nonsense anymore.
Yes, he tried it before.
And it failed spectacularly, miserably, and embarrassingly.
What makes you think he’s gotten any smarter or more capable since then?
If he had been even slightly luckier, with no greater intelligence or capability required, his army would have breeched the Capitol chambers, murdered all of the Democrats in Congress, and the remaining Congressmembers would have decided how to deal with that situation.
Having gotten that close, the rational response is not “Oh, well, he failed once, and therefore he’s guaranteed to fail every time he ever tries it again”. The rational response is “That was way too close, and the next time we might not be so lucky”.
He’s got a much more evil, capable and ruthless team at his back now.
More capable? Which one? The cage fighter with CTE, the alcoholic TV host, Vince McMahon’s token wife, or the lawyer who can’t manage to indict a ham sandwich?
An unorganized mob of rednecks vs. the Capitol Police was NEVER going to be successful in any reality.
And in the real world, those Republicans voted overwhelmingly to certify the election of Joe Biden.
It was never “close”. It was a cockamamie, half-assed, disorganized and lazy attempt based on pseudolaw which was rejected by Trump’s own vice president, the Republican leadership in Congress, the entire Supreme Court, and every single Republican secretary of state.
But hey, last time he only had the MyPillow guy on his side. This time he’s got Dr. Oz AND Kid Rock!
Yes. “He’s guaranteed to fail” is guaranteed to be delusional. He will fail only if we are prepared----by, among other things, looking at what is Possible; not what is “Authorized”, or “Constitutional,” or “The Way it’s Always Been”.
This, very much.
And:
The attempt to reframe this sort of preparation as “pessimism” isn’t working. And it’s unproductive.
As the creation and subsequent punching of Strawmen always is.
There was one door left, and they were already in the process of breaking that door down. That is, in fact, really close.