NFL 2023: Week 12 men who have walked on the moon

Did you mean NFC south?

AFC South has the Jaguars, who are tied for second for the best record in the AFC, and the Colts and Texans, who are both surprisingly in the playoff hunt.

Whereas the NFC South has no teams above .500, (the 5-6 Falcons lead the division), and only one team (Saints) have scored more points than they’ve allowed. (+7).

Yeah, I was a bit surprised by this as well. Hard to judge what to expect from first year QBs and all, but Indy and Houston have already outperformed expectations for the year. Granted, those were low expectations, but 3 teams out of 4 still realistically being in the playoff hunt into December is not bad.

Of the 4 divisions, it’s the AFC East that appears to resemble a quagmire of mediocrity the most. The Pats are a dumpster fire and need some kind of change in management, the Jets are still the Jets, the Bills are somehow only 6-6 with a now veteran Josh Allen, and I guess the Dolphins might finally be good again but they keep giving people reasons to doubt.

He just won a Super Bowl last year exactly like that.

Last year’s Chiefs went 14-3 and beat the Niners, the Bengals, and the Eagles.

Meh, i would agree that Jacksonville & Houston have shown promise, but still stand by the AFC South being mediocre on the basis that the team at the top, Jacksonville, isn’t on the same tier as the other AFC division leaders.

What a terrible situation here in Charlotte. Frank Reich is the first coach to get fired this year. The decision to trade up to take a tiny QB is going to haunt this franchise for years.

Well, okay, but if you’re going to list mediocre divisions, you must include the NFC South. Jags have defeated both the Falcons and Saints this year. AFC South is 8-5 vs the NFC South.

But the NFC South isn’t mediocre. It’s bad.

Point taken!

They won’t call ‘Illegal Contact’ (the 5 yarder) if he’s out of the pocket and the ball isn’t in the air, but ‘Pass Interference’ is still a viable call if the ball has been thrown. I assume they will still call ‘Defensive Holding’ - otherwise it would be open season to just tackle the receivers.

He can, and he has!

Not just was he the first coach fired this year, he is only the third NFL coach to be fired from two different teams in back-to-back seasons. The other two were Chip Kelly (fired from the Eagles in 2015, San Francisco in 2016) and Ray Rhodes (fired from Philadelphia in 1998, and during the next season by Green Bay in 2000).

This Bears-Vikings game might be the worst thing I’ve seen all season.

They are in worse shape this year. No JuJu. Toney came in and contributed. He isn’t this year and didn’t play this week. Hardman down this week and not doing well this year. Rice seems to be shaping up to be a good player. Overall they look to be worse than last year. I haven’t watched every game but I’ve seen a lot of drops this year.

One huge difference this year is the fact that they have one of the league’s best defenses. Whether that will be enough to carry them remains to be seen.

It was like the Bears defense vs the Bears offense. Four interceptions beats two fumbles.

That was as ugly a football game as I’ve seen in awhile. Yuck.

Oh, how quickly we forgot you, Josh McDaniels…

I appreciate the correction, but I was going off of @Southern_Yankee ’s comments.

Indeed, which Is why I also quoted him right above you…

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Can’t believe I missed that.