NFL draft

Nope. The Chefs (yes, I know I called them that) had a studly offensive line that’s played together for a while under one offensive coordinator. Most, if not all of the good lines in the league have been together.

That’s why you’ve gotta root for the Pistons and give up that silly Knicks team I see so often on MSG.

Detroit as a city is dead to me because they put a dome over their cold weather football stadium. Same with Minnesota and Indianapolis. Pussies, the lot of 'em. It’s not like Green Bay and Buffalo get noticeably less snow.

As for linemen, I only know the Giants, so I can’t produce an example of a star going down and a star-in-waiting taking his place and going on to glory. Other positions fail in analogy, as you pointed out regarding the Chiefs and as I pointed out to myself before rejecting the counter-example of Brady taking over for Bledsoe.

The example of Brady-for-Bledsoe (and I agree about the domed stadium. It’s a great home-field advantage, especially when warm weather punks come to town. The sound qualities are dead in there too. If it were up to me, the sound would reverberate and amplify to mess with the visitors, but they don’t consult me. They should.) is a perfect example of the Patrick Ewing Theory. It states that a team can only win when its superstar goes down with a freak injury/is on the bench. Instances occur VERY often. The Ewing Theory . Aftre you read it, you’ll start looking for it, I guarantee it.

Just for kicks, I thought I’d provide a cite for what I’ve been saying all off-season. Favre is back.

It’s not often I can cite an accurate prediction, so grant me a moment to shine. :slight_smile:
And now I have to call in dead to work. I’m celebrating tonight!

Okay, it’s starting to get late (I’m a night owl) and I’m actually getting loopy from lack of caffeine, but this is freaking me out. As an unrepentant cheap bastard, (still on dialup!), I am not an ESPN Insider, so I could not read the article in your link. But a google search for Ewing Theory revealed that exact same article, on ESPN’s site, but it’s not insider’d. WTF?

Insider: http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=1193711
Free: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=1193711&type=package

Is google ripping off ESPN, is ESPN just stupid, or am I missing something?

Back to our discussion, are you just fucking with my head, or what? Erase all my responses to your one liner question and replace them with “Nah, I’d wrap myself in the comforting embrace of the Ewing Theory.”

hehheh.

Regarding dome stadiums, I am a huge proponent of the schedule makers emphasizing home field advantage from weather. (A day late and a dollar short, but let’s pretend I came up with this in time for that commissioner thread a month ago. This didn’t occur to me until a couple weeks ago.)

Thinking back to the Giants game in Dallas early last season, due to the hole in the roof one bench is in the brutal sun while the other is in the cool shade. Of course, the visitors (Giants) got the sun that day, as it was over 100 degrees. You could see all the Giants players languishing in the oppressive heat, while the Cowboys looked downright peppy on their bench.

More of this, I say. ALL Cardinals, Cowboys, and Dolphins home divisional games should be played in the month of September. (There’s only three, after all.) ALL cold weather teams home games against non-cold weather (and dome) teams should be played in December. That would put the Dolphins and Cowboys on the road in December against their three division rivals. This would also put the Colts and Falcons on the road in September, the Lions and Vikings on the road in December, and I’m sure several others I’m not thinking of. (Is there a rainy season in Seattle, or are they just bleak all year long?)

I think this would be an excellent scheduling strategy to adopt, as it would accentuate the home field advantage of weather as well as sending out a hearty Fuck You to the dome teams. A win-win.

Yes, I’m aware that this plan would technically introduce a competitive imbalance, but it would be worth it. I want more snow games, and I also want more scorched earth games. Weather is good for football.

I wholeheartedly agree with your feelings on the weather and football. I love watching NFL flims and seeing the old Vikings with the condensation coming of ftheir heads back in the day. Yeah, good stuff. Besides, games in such nasty weather make it memorable.
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Ah yes, The Ewing Theory is plenty strong. It has ramifications in many, many areas. You start recognizing it a lot more when you are familiar with it, that’s for sure.

How does everyone think the Favre news affects the draft? I have to guess it blows away any of the scenarios in which the Pack take a QB first. However, I’m inclined to think that it might increase the chances that they bypass a defender in order to nab Vernon Davis.

If they get their desired price of a late 1st rounder for Javon Walker there’ll be a LB available late.

I personally think it increases the chance of the Pack drafting Davis. Farve will need someone to throw to as a saftey valve. Green Bay cant have their living legend come back and get battered and have his worse season ever. Davis out there would give Farve a Chance.

While GB should draft a Defender, Davis is not really a bad pick either. A second year TE will help when last years 1st round draft pick finally gets to play.

Although I’m not completely sold on him, the Pack signed Bubba Franks to a 7 year, $28 million deal last August. With that kind of investment, I doubt their too hip on grabbing another TE, even one as freakishly talented as Davis.

Although they are in a situation much like the 49ers, with a lack of talented wide receivers, I don’t see them grabbing Davis over filling a need on defense. AJ Hawk, who I’m guessing we end up with, is a special player who will make an immediate, positive impact on defense. Davis is special too, but isn’t a priority, and isn’t THAT much of an improvement over Hawk to make the Pack take him.

Don’t know how widely it was reported but local news last night had Casserly saying the Texans definately will not be drafting Young with their pick. Also, if they can’t sign Bush before Saturday they’ll look to Mario Williams to help the D. UT fans are screaming bloody murder but they’re also quite mistaken with their biased assessment.

Bubba Franks is already a beefy tight end. The Packers have no business getting a tight end. Defense is the pick. They’ll take a linebacker and possible Sinorice Moss if they get a late first rounder for Javon Walker to replace him.

Could be Chad Jackson, too. They might be lusting after his speed.

I think I saw that on ESPN.com. It’s a good move for them. If Peyton Manning was in this draft, maybe, but it’d be such a huge risk to take Young that high. No idea what the Texans will do, but the more I hear the arguments in favor of drafting Mario Williams, the more sense they make.

Walker is visiting the Saints today. Grant and Stallworth are in contract years, so I can see them exchanging Grant (and maybe Stally as well) for Walker and taking Super Mario. Brees, Horn, Walker, Deuce, and the promising Hilton look pretty damn good to me, but they’ll need to look at Marcus McNeill or Winston at that second round pick to help protect his right side.

With NO and Denver being the two likliest places Walker would be traded to this late, I’m hoping Walker and the 5th pick will get the two close enough to work something out to trade spots. That gives the option of Bush or Williams. Considering the Saints would get a proven talent and only give up 3 spots seems doable.

Of course, after Tony Mandarich, the front office has stopped taking my opinion into account when drafting. :smiley:

This could get fun.

I think the Saints are a lot higher on Mario or Brick, which would most likely be out of reach at the 5th spot unless NY is bluffing about lack on interest in Leinhart.

Heh, I was excited to come here and discuss the potential impact of the Walker visits and here you bastards beat me to it! Knew I could count on you guys.

As noted he’s gotten permission to talk with both Denver and New Orleans. I see a few scenarios resulting.

  1. He goes to Denver for their 15th pick straight up. Denver’s primary need is WR and Walker is a very very good one. It also removes any doubt that Chad Jackson will be there or not.

  2. He goes to the Saints as some sort of package to swap first round picks. Likely the Packers would do this in order to target Mario Williams and the Saints would be hoping that D’Brickishaw Ferguson would still be there at 5. If this is the case I’m guessing the Saints would only give up Stallworth.

  3. The Saints play hardball and give up their second round pick only. Not sure what the perceived value of Walker is, great talent with a manageable contract coming of a major injury. If the Broncos are eager to get him it could drive up his value forcing them to toss in Stallworth as well.

I think the most likely is the move to Denver, the Broncos don’t have many holes and WRs tend to take a couple years to develop. Adding Walker, assuming his injury isn’t a persistent concern, would do more to get them over the hump for next year. Additionally that gives the Packers 2 first rounders. They can take Vernon Davis at 5 and bolster their receiving core and can address the need for defense with 15, where there’ll be plenty of good DEs or LBs available. Winston Justice could be there at 15 too. Works great for the Pack and for Denver.

The Saints have more to offer and the Pack might want to get a veteran in return like Grant or Stallworth. If the Saints have any confidence that the Jets will take Leinart instead of Ferguson they’d be eager to move back since Tackle is a much more urgent need than anything on defense for them.

A mid-first round pick is a very high price for anybody. But maybe you’re on to something.

Yeah, you’re right and realistically considering the injury and Walker’s refusal to return to GB the Broncos do have a little leverage here. I still think the logic is solid and that the Broncos would be much better off with Walker instead of Holmes or Jackson. For that reason I like the move, though it’s probably likely the Pack would have to sweeten the deal a bit by throwing in a 3rd or 4th rounder. Still a great move by the Pack I think.

With a little closer inspection I see that the Broncos have two 2nd rounders, 37 and 61 overall, a high third at 68 overall and three late fourth rounders.

Not sure how that affects the proposition of them trading the 15th pick to the Packers. I suppose gaining a high third rounder (67th overall) may be less motivating when you already hold the 68th pick. A couple possibilities, that it allows the Broncos to package some of those picks to move back into the first round after giving up 15 or that they might be able to persuade the Packers by offering up a glut of 2nd and 3rd rounders.

Experts have said that if a deal doesn’t happen before Saturday it won’t happen.