NFL draft

Here’s what I’m thinking right now. I’m not over-analyzing this, it’s more a stream-of-concious idea, so take it for what it’s worth.

Ideally it’s a straight-up Walker and #5 for #2. But with NO’s needs and the Jets in the mix (I don’t see much legit argument in TN not taking a QB), we have a couple of monkey-wrenches.

As pointed out earlier, the thought of Williams (should he live up to hype) teaming with KGB and giving Kampman the interior to run wild is just too tantalizing. Given what they could become as a unit, I can’t think of an O-Line that wouldn’t be outclassed on every play. Should it come down to including a 3rd or 4th round, I could see the 4th and 7th packaged before the straight up 3rd. Add to that a player like Gado and we could always make up those later-round picks without mortgaging the farm through a late trade.

Should Hawk be available to us after Williams is taken I’d be just as happy. Well, not just as happy, but close enough to still be happy.

Finally, and I suck at how multi-team trades work so maybe someone can give a scenario no matter how unlikely, what would be some scenarios in GB, NO and Denver getting together?

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Essentially there are 4 positions where the Bears need help. Early in the process I had a huge hard-on for Vernon Davis and at the time it seemed remotely possible they could land him somehow. The result of that was that I presumed they would go with the best TE available at their spot once Davis rocketed up draft boards into the top 6. The ESPN mock draft guys just shook me out of that mindset and I’m of the opinion that all the other TEs would be a reach anywhere in the first round. Mercedes Lewis isn’t as good as Heath Miller was last year and I like Leonard Pope’s size better, but he’s not a reliable route runner. There’s some depth at the position meaning the Bears 2nd or 4th round picks might be a better TE value spot.

Here’s where I’m revising my Bears targets with the 26th overall pick, in order.

WR - This isn’t a shock, but going into the off-season I had a level of confidence in our depth here. Moose Muhammad sucked last year and dropped balls repeatedly. Then he showed some character flaws when Orton struggled. Mark Bradley showed flashes of brilliance before his injury and he’ll come back strong. Bernard Berrian stepped up and earned himself a starting role as the guy who stretches the field opposite Moose. Of course this confidence was totally unfounded and was overly optimistic based on a playoff appearance. As a result the Bears should look to WR here.

The choices: Santonio Holmes, Sinorice Moss. Holmes probably won’t be there, but stranger things have happened. With Walker possibly going to one of the few teams in the middle of the draft targeting a first round WR the chances of his sliding increase a bit. Moss will definitely be available and frankly he’s a slight reach, but he fits wonderfully for what we need. The most glaring hole on the Bears roster was at PR/KR. We muffed kicks frequently and it was more than a little costly. Both of these players excelled in the return capability in college and should be expected to step right in an improve us and give us a threat. Even if they lack prototypical size for an NFL WR the crossover skills on special teams and elite speed make them perfect fits for the Bears.

S - This position has emerged as a huge need position with the loss of Mike Green and the regular injuries suffered by Mike Brown. Chris Harris and Todd Johnson both played well when asked to, but they didn’t prove themselves to be of the caliber that is expected in a elite Bears defense. The Cover-2 relies on fast, hard-hitting safeties and there’s a great crop of them available this year. The ugly experience of getting torched by Steve Smith punctuates this need.

The choices: Donte Whitner, Jason Allen. Both have good speed, size and tackling ability. Both were playmakers who were all over the field and would be an ideal fit next to Mike Brown in the Cover-2 look. Both might come off the board just before the Bears pick, if either is still available they may need to take him ahead of a WR regardless of need. Best player available as always.

CB - Not quite the need position it was before the Manning Jr. signing but you can never have enough talent at this position. The Bears are in pretty solid shape with Tillman and Vasher, both ball hawking, shutdown type CBs, but both lacked the speed and strength to handle Steve Smith one-on-one. I’m fine going into the season with these three guys, but the retirement of Azumah inclines you to address it. The fact that the draft is loaded at CB means that you can get a hell of a value at 26th overall at this position.

The choices: Jonathan Joseph, Ashton Youboty, Antonio Cromartie. I’m not in love with any of these guys. Each are projected to be gone before the 26th pick and all would be viewed as solid values. These players each have questions but they all have ridiculous speed which is one thing the Bears DBs lack. If one of these guys are here and both Safeties are gone I think you make the pick, I’m not sure I address this ahead of WR though unless one of these guys has return skills. Cromartie seems like the most versatile and might have that kind of talent.

LB - This is a position where the Bears are strong but Briggs is into the final year of his contract (and extension talks have stalled, thanks Rosenhaus, you prick) and Hillenmeyer is unsigned as of yet and isn’t a superior athlete. Depth is an issue. Drafting a LB would give the team leverage in contract talks and it would provide excellent depth. Essentially it all comes down to value. I don’t think you focus on this position unless there’s a outstanding value there. I’m not sure many guys behind Sims and Wimbley on the depth chart are worth bypassing need spots. Carpenter and Lawson would be nice to have, but not at the expense of overlooking WR and S.

The choices: Not going to list any guys. If Holmes and all the DBs are gone, then you address it since that’d essentially mean an elite LB had to slide down. If a top LB is here and you’re forced to choose between Moss and a group of second tier DBs you have to make that pick, but it’s probably a long shot. Incidentally, I don’t think Greenway is a very good pick here. He reminds me of Hillenmeyer, and we’ll probably already have him. Greenway isn’t an immediate star, though the Bears could probably afford to wait on him to bulk up and improve.

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It was very widely reported, but it doesn’t refute my theory: I was talking about the TITANS, not the Texans.

The Texans used to be the Houston Oilers, owner Bud Adams is still a Houston guy, and I’m betting he really wants Vince Young.

Coach Jeff Fisher almost certainly DOESN’T want Vince. So, it’ll be interesting to see who wins out.

The TITANS used to be the Houston Oilers. Doh!

…and you wonder why I’m pushing the Insider on you guys…

You realize this means I’m not going to eat or sleep for the next 2 days…

Welcome to my life, pre-draft the past couple years.

God, there really is so much Insider stuff to sift through, too. I remember the day I got the password. It was friggin’ bananas for about three weeks.

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2006 NFL Draft

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PFT is claiming Mario has been signed by the Texans.

And here’s a linky-linky.

I still think it’s all BS. Just posturing, they can sign a contract with Williams and still draft Bush and tear it up. It’s most likely all one big bluff, and right now with Bush’s off-field issues they have all the leverage in the world to get him to take a really soft contract in exchange for being the #1 overall pick.

Thing is, I don’t think he cares if he’s #1. He drops to #2 and I think the Jets are likely to trade what they have to to move up. The endorsements and exposure he gets in that city more than make up for the money lost in the contract.

I was amused to click on CBS Sportsline to discover a big box featuring the breaking news about Mario Williams signing with the Texans … just above a story about how you shouldn’t buy the rumors that Mario Williams would sign with the Texans.

Everyone is now saying a Deal has been done. I don’t think this is BS at all. If the numbers of the deal have been released, it’s as good as done, IMO.

Here’s a Fox Sports article detailing it.

I’m not shocked because I have Williams higher on my big board and have stated a handful of times the prevailing wisdom that DEs are more valuable and rarer than RBs. The pick does make football sense.

Still, to totally flip-flop on something with this much coverage and to not take a universal fan favorite in Reggie Bush is shocking from a PR standpoint. I mean, Williams is probably a safer pick and all things being equal you take the pass rusher from a football standpoint, but the jersey sales, ticket sales and general publicity that Bush would have meant is amazing to turn away from.

How good do the Saints feel about signing Brees right now? How hard is LA going to push to steal the Saints now? Where’s this leave the Javon Walker deal?

Huge news, all around.

That’s one surprise out of the way. The Saints have to feel like they won the lottery. Bush is theirs, and they’re probably getting a number of good offers for their pick.