In some ways…yes. But our OC and oline didn’t do him any favors either. It’s hard to tell which factor loomed largest. I am inclined to believe its a combination of all three things. Plus Dalton is only in his second year. I think that with the emergence of RGIII, Luck and Russell that there’s suddenly this rush to urgency…this kind of success by 1st and 2nd year QB’s is completely unprecedented, Dalton included.
That’s great. To heck with that fake ass preacher EmmerEffer. He can eat a bag of dicks. Murdering Ray will always have a bit of an asterisk by his name for that whole thing, plus his infidelity.
Also: I do NOT think he was the greatest MLB of all time. Yes, he played with unmatched passion (and that godawful dance) but let’s be real here: that defense in 2000 that he gets a lot of credit for was the best defense of ALL TIME…and not just because of him. They had awesome players across the board. Lightning in a bottle.
I still think Mike Singletary was the best MLB ever.
Thirded. It was painful to watch him play, like a thoroughbred race horse still wanting to run even though it has a broken leg. My wife and I couldn’t believe Shanahan kept him in the game. He should have been pulled at halftime, maybe in the second quarter even.
What I don’t understand is how a guy can be an offensive coordinator in the NFL, and not realize your QB and team is not just theoretically, but actually, doing much better running than passing. (They averaged over 5 yards per run for the game. About a full yard more than per pass attempt after sacks included.)
Which would be a much stronger argument if the Vikings hadn’t easily rolled down the field on their first drive with zero passes.
I mean, the Vikings play calling outrages me still and I was rooting for the Packers, for God’s sake!
FedEx Field isn’t bad, though I wish I’d been able to see a game at RFK.
Amazing how many people in this thread referred to RG3’s knee before the game, and how many of us saw it immediately at the game, and yet unfortunately none of us is named Mike Shanahan. What an idiot.
I part of his post game interview, and he said that he questioned RGIII during halftime and RGIII said he was good to go and that he “deserved” to be the QB. Shannahan left him in. Part of the blame goes on RGIII for doing what is manly, despite an obvious decrease in ability.
As much as I dislike Jay Cutler, at least he had the guts to take himself out when he couldn’t properly play the game and was more a liability than a benefit. RGIII didn’t. I’m sure most of it is he’s young and feels the need to prove himself, but his (and Shannahan’s) decision really hurt the team.
Shanahan was talking recently about how he told Snyder don’t expect immediate results from me, I’ll rebuild the team into a winner but it’ll be done right over 5 years. That forgiving time frame and the fact they gave up so much to get RG and that it’s not just a bruised rib or something but a running QB’s frikkin’ knee that’s hurt and he still keeps him in have collectively severely eroded my appreciation for Mike’s decision making process.
Shanahan seems to be having to answer for a couple of calls recently, his comments after the 3-6 loss included. Poor guy, apparently it’s always someone else’s fault.
Or some one else should get the credit. What did he do in Denver without Elway? What did he do in Denver with Elway but without a reliable running back?
After the Redskins started so dominantly, I thought they’d at least be able to do something offensively even if RGIII left the game entirely. I was surprised they kittenized so completely. Is no one else able to play? What happened to the offensive line that had been shoving around Seattle defenders? (I guess Lichtenstein got hurt…was he the key, though?)
Or was it more a case of Seattle’s defense being so good, once they adjusted to the Skins’ offense?
Maybe a smidgen, for saying what practically any athlete in his position would say. The coach needs to have the perspective to overrule the manliness thing, and say, “no, you can’t run the way you ought to, and you can’t even throw the way you ought to, so you’re coming out.”
The RG3 debate seems to be the essence of Monday Morning Quarterbacking. (Or the Historian’s Fallacy If you want to get fancy.) If Shanahan had put in Cousins we probably still would have lost the game, and people would be venting about how Griffin had been pulled too soon. The Seahawks simply outplayed the 'Skins on every level. Even our blocking and tackling looked sub-par.
I am nervous about that knee. I really hope that wasn’t a career ender.
Yeah there was no way to get that right. The defense was holding up for 3 quarters, and had the offense been able to do anything after halftime, this game could have been much, much closer. I for one have confidence in Cousins, and I think he could have put up some points. Would it have been enough, I guess we’ll never know (unless, if RG3 is unable to play at the start of next season, maybe we will find out).
People were criticizing Shanahan while the game was still going on. You can see at least one example in this thread. That might be armchair QBing, but the problem is the people in the armchairs were right and Shanahan was wrong.
If so, they would have shut up when the team announced he was going to have surgery on his knee.
Probably not, but we’ll see how fully he can recover. The best you can hope for at this point is that he was already badly injured and the effects of the game didn’t make it much worse.
The offense couldn’t do anything because Griffin was playing on one leg and couldn’t run or throw.