I don’t know if it’s “every contract in history” but it’s certainly every Top 5 pick since the rookie wage scale was established. Basically Bosa would be getting the worst deal of his peers.
So, both sides are standing on principle and don’t want to set a precedent. The real bizarre part is that San Diego somehow have set the precedent of being the cheapest and slimiest front office in all of football 20 years running.
It seems strange to say but I can look down upon San Diego’s front office as a Browns fan. My team has had well-meaning failures due to incompetance, but San Diego seems to inflict damage on itself out of stupid ego battles and greed. They’re pretty much fucking themselves over on this one. They’re going to lose free agents, Bosw is missing valuable development time and if it turns out he’s as good as advertised he’s going to remember this and bolt to another team that respects him when his contract is up.
Interesting quote from here: NFL - Don't blame Joey Bosa for this San Diego Chargers mess, holdout, contract dispute - ESPN
So, basically the NFL owners won a couple battles this year and Bosa is expected to fall in line. No idea what the history on offsets + deferments are for 1st overall picks or 5th picks or lower since the new CBA, but safe to assume some deals included both. But at least before this year Bosa’s position was the norm in his range (2nd-4th picks).
I certainly think San Diego comparing Bosa’s 3rd overall slot to their previous post-CBA picks (18, 18, 11, 25, 15) is dishonest as fuck. I also think the NFL is cheap in general for deferring guaranteed money and especially slimy for using offset language which basically punishes the players when the team personnel department fucks up.
EDIT: Additional facts here: Agent's Take: Making sense of the ongoing case of Joey Bosa vs. the Chargers - CBSSports.com
Interesting nugget from my second link:
If that’s the case, it’s dishonest to imply that Wentz “accepted a deferral.” You could also argue that as a injury prone RB Elliott was probably a special case at #4 overall too.
This strikes me as weird.
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So that means that 3 previous 1st round picks before Goff all accepted both deferrals and offsets, so the 3rd round picks in those same years actually got slightly better terms than the 1st round pick. As a Chargers front-office guy you could reasonably make the case that those previous 3rd round deals were the outliers and you’re setting things right.
I still think offsets are really shitty and deferrals are just plain old cheap, and that the Chargers might be right in saying that “everyone else is just as shitty and cheap!” So good for you San Diego.
Again, I’m not really tuned in to the details of contracts, but why are offsets “shitty” and deferrals “plain old cheap”. Unless I misunderstand, the offsets only mean that the player can’t double dip for a year, getting salary from two different teams while playing for only one. And deferrals don’t change the money given an athlete, only put it off to a later year for salary cap and tax bracket reasons. I don’t see what’s so horrible about those.
I also don’t see it but only because I’m completely ignorant of them. Could you explain both to me like I’m a three-year-old?
Landry Jones with 4 interceptions. Ben better stay healthy.
Terrelle Pryor blew by Trufant last night like it was easy. I didn’t realize he was that good of an athlete. It would be kind of amazing if one of those conversion products actually worked.
Rg3’s deep ball and you might as well play Madden style and run three verts on every play with Pryor Gordon and Coleman. Completely revamped passing game. If they hadn’t gutted their o-line for no reason in the offseason the Browns might actually have a great passing offense.
I had a “Wait…who?” moment watching the Pryor catch. Seems he’s put his past behind him.
I wonder if Gordon still has the edge he did with all the inactivity…or if he’ll blow it again anyway and get permanently banned from football. 
I would love to see RG3 return to his rookie season form.
Watching him that year was like watching Mike Tyson when he was young.
Unstoppable.
I keep hearing a lot of raves about the Cowboys QB Dak prescott and Romo and I am old enough to know it doesn’t mean anything until After Labor day
ESPN just posted their top 100 players in the NFL (well, 51-100 today). For years Nick Mangold and Maurkice Pouncey have battled as the best center in the AFC and this year…they manage to tie at number 72.
Just in time for another sub .500 season.
Hey now, they usually finish 8-8.
Guess you forgot they had a sub .500 season because there was no starter or quality backup
Talk to me in November
Roethlisberger played at Miami (OH) in the MAC, back when the mid-majors were actually competitive with the major conferences at times. You can’t really compare his college performance with Wentz’. Flacco, perhaps.
I watched the Bucs/Eagles game (the only one I’ve seen this preseason) and Wentz was kind of awful. Certainly nothing unfixable, and the Buccaneers’ pass rush totally dominated that game (which should be worrying since the strength of the Eagles’ offense is supposed to be the line), but nothing that was particularly encouraging either.
Plenty of them have. Well, some. Antwaan Randle El springs to mind.
Goff, on the other hand, seems to be picking it up. He brought the Rams back against the Chiefs, not that it’s a huge thing in the preseason anyway. But he’s starting to clear some of those rookie mistakes and show up as a leader.
In my experience the conversions have had more success on the defensive side of the ball…Ronnie Lott, Charles and Rod Woodson (all corners-to-safeties, although Charles switched many years after he’d started in the pros as a corner). Devin Hester, Josh Cribbs, Percy Harvin, and Neon Deion are imperfect examples because they were recognized as multiple-position players before they even played at the pro level. Ultimately there’s been no one that switched to offense that has turned out to be elite. though if it was anyone it’d be Deion.
I know there have been some college to pros switches, but I can’t recall any position switches in the pros. Major ones, that is - corner to safety is a fairly natural transition. A starting pro QB becoming a starting pro WR has to be pretty unusual. Tebow could’ve become an H-back/TE type maybe, if he wasn’t so hung up on being a quarterback. By all accounts Pryor checked his ego and fully invested in his new position.
The only question I’d have with Tebow would be his hands…would he be capable of getting those tough passes? (He’d be great running end-arounds, though).