NFL - Week 1

It’s that time. Really. Check your watches and calendars. The NFL season starts Thursday night. In the tradition started by Gazoo, I officially kick off the NFL Prognostication season:

**NFL — Week 1 **
Thursday’s game
San Francisco by 3½ at N.Y. GIANTS 38½

Sunday’s games

TENNESSEE by 1 Philadelphia 37
N.Y. Jets by 3 BUFFALO 40½
WASHINGTON by 7 Arizona 43½
Baltimore by 2 CAROLINA 33½
CHICAGO by 4½ Minnesota 41½
CINCINNATI by 2 San Diego 38
CLEVELAND by 3 Kansas City 37
GREEN BAY by 7 Atlanta 43
Indianapolis by 3½ JACKSONVILLE 43½
MIAMI by 8 Detroit 36½
St. Louis by 3 DENVER 52
OAKLAND by 7 Seattle 41
TAMPA BAY by 5½ New Orleans 37½
Dallas by 8 HOUSTON 33½

Monday’s game

Pittsburgh by 2½ NEW ENGLAND 37½

Home team in CAPS
Favorite is on the left.
Spread is shown.
Number to the right is the Over/Under. You can pick whether more or less points than that will be scored in the game by both teams.

Note, I don’t have time to do initial picks yet, but I’m sure someone can jump in and have the honors…

For those of you who are new, here’s some ways to jump in and offer an opinion:

[ul]
[li]Pick the winners of each game[/li][li]Pick a score (so this gives you against the spread and the over/under)[/li][li]The dreaded Omni picks, where you try and get five correct games against the spread (you pick which games)[/li][li]Survivor: pick one team each week to win. Trick is that you can’t reuse the team in subsequent weeks.[/li][li]Loser: pick one team each week to lose. Again, you can’t repeat teams.[/li][/ul]

The last three are very tough. Also, those in the SDMB Pick 'Em League, don’t forget the Thursday game. Same goes for anybody in Fantasy Football if you have players on the 49ers or Giants.

I’ll be opting for the last two options each weeek.

Survivor: Dallas
Loser: Seattle

Those are decent picks. I see you don’t want to use up Carolina or Detroit too early in the Loser pool.

FWIW, here’s a link to my uneducated examination of this year’s teams.

good stuff, shibb.

I’ll be back tonight or tomorrow with my picks.

They’re playing in Gilette Stadium.

New England will win, but it will be a close shave.

Eutychus, Eutychus, Eutychus. What you’re forgetting is the Steelers have not forgotten last year’s loss in the playoffs, and neither has Troy Edwards who’s been sent off to parts unknown. I don’t know what the newspapers in your neck of the woods are saying, but in my part of Penn’s Woods, the feeling is it will be the Steelers, but it’s going to be a tough, well fought game.

Meet you in the playoffs (or, as said by the Steeler defence, “Meet you at the quarterback”)!

CJ
Who me? Rabid? Never! :wipes foam off mouth:

Christ, do I have to be first? OK…

Without going into detail with every pick(I have 2 pick’m leagues and 5 FF rosters to set in the next 21 hours), here we go:

San Francisco by 3½ at N.Y. GIANTS 38½ SF wins, covers, over
TENNESSEE by 1 Philadelphia 37 TEN wins, covers, over
N.Y. Jets by 3 BUFFALO 40½ NYJ wins, covers, under
WASHINGTON by 7 Arizona 43½ WAS wins, covers, over
Baltimore by 2 CAROLINA 33½ BAL wins, covers, under
CHICAGO by 4½ Minnesota 41½ MIN wins in an upset , CHI doesn’t cover, over)
CINCINNATI by 2 San Diego 38 CIN wins, covers, under
CLEVELAND by 3 Kansas City 37 KC in the upset, over
GREEN BAY by 7 Atlanta 43 GB wins, covers, over
Indianapolis by 3½ JACKSONVILLE 43½ Indy wins, covers, over
MIAMI by 8 Detroit 36½ MIA wins, covers, under
St. Louis by 3 DENVER 52 StL wins, covers, under
OAKLAND by 7 Seattle 41 OAK wins, doesn’t cover, over
TAMPA BAY by 5½ New Orleans 37½ TB wins, doesn’t cover, over
Dallas by 8 HOUSTON 33½ DAL wins, covers, under
Pittsburgh by 2½ NEW ENGLAND 37½ PIT wins, covers, under

The OMNI’s: DAL, StL, MIA, and SF all cover. CHI does not.

FOOTBALL!!! It’s about time. Quick notes. The Raiders fans are crybabies. Nuff said, oh wait I almost forgot, sorry you won’t be in the BIG GAME. Now where was I…Oh yeah here’s what’s happenin this week.
NFL — Week 1
Thursday’s game
San Francisco v N.Y. GIANTS

This’ll be the Niners all the way. Niners beat the spread, Niners cover, Under

Sunday’s games

Tennessee v. Philly
I really want to give this to the Titans, but I’m going with McNabb and Co. Philly wins and covers, Under.

N.Y. Jets v. Buffalo
Who picked the Over/under on this game? Jets to win, Jets to cover, UNDER.

WASHINGTON v Arizona
This should be a good game Sunday. The Cards are going to surprise a lot of people now that they’re more visible in the NFC West. I’m going with the Cards on this one. Too many changes in one season for the Skins, and this ain’t the preseason. Cards to win and beat the spread. Over.

Baltimore v CAROLINA
Balitimore wins and covers; Under.

CHICAGO v Minnesota
This should be another great game on Sunday. I really wanted to go with Chi-Town on this one, but I’m not, they aren’t the sleeper this season. Minny upsets, Over.

CINCINNATI v San Diego
Does anyone really give a shit about this game? Cincy all the way, Under.

CLEVELAND v Kansas City
When I think football on opening day. I think KC. This year won’t be any different. KC wins and beats the spread. UNDER.

GREEN BAY v Atlanta
Favre at home. Any questions? GB wins; Atlanta covers; UNDER.

Indianapolis v JACKSONVILLE
I’ll take Indy in this one. They’ll beat the spread. OVER.

MIAMI v Detroit
Are the fans the only ones who realizes that the Dolphins need a quarterback who’s not colorblind? Not that it’ll matter in this game. Dolphins keep it on the ground and squeek out a win. Detroit beats the spread. Under.
St. Louis v DENVER
Somebody’s been drinking. No way in hell STL doesn’t beat the spread. STL wins covers but UNDER.

OAKLAND v Seattle
Oaktown wins covers and OVER.

TAMPA BAY v New Orleans
I want to flip a coin on this one. TB wins, NO beats the spread. PUSH.
Dallas v HOUSTON
I could care less about this game. Dallas wins, Dallas covers OVER.
Survivor: Vikings
Loser: Redskins

I’m not going to bother with spreads, overs, and unders. Don’t really understand all of that yet.

I’ll just pick the winners of each game, and for as long as I can, I’ll pick a survivor and loser.

That said, here are my offerings.

Thursday’s Game
San Francisco at New York Giants. I’m going with the Niners on this one. The Giants aren’t what they used to be, and the 49ers are shaping up into a damn nice team.

Sunday’s games
Philadelphia at Tennessee. Eagles win.

N.Y. Jets at Buffalo. I’ll go with the Jets.

Arizona at Washington. I think Spurrier’s going to be a fun coach to watch on the sidelines this year…he never makes a secret of how he’s feeling at the moment. The Redskins will not be a gracious host, and will beat the Cardinals easily.

Baltimore at Carolina. Ouch. The Ravens win, and the Panther fans continue to suffer.

Minnesota at Chicago. Memo to the Bears: your fluke season is over. Vikings will win.

San Diego at Cincinnati. I’m reminded of a line coined by the late Lewis Grizzard to describe a football game played out between two bad teams: “Two mules fighting over a turnip.” Bengals win in a surprise victory over the Chargers. Well…at least the Chargers don’t have Ryan Leaf to kick around anymore. Enjoy it while it lasts, because Cincy doesn’t have much promise for the whole season.

Kansas City at Cleveland. I’ve got the sneaking feeling that the Browns will finally emerge as a decent team this year. The Chiefs will be the first to learn about this. Browns win.

Atlanta at Green Bay. Packers win.

Indianapolis at Jacksonville. Colts had some promise last year. Looks like they should have some promise this year. I’ll cut them a break, and pick them to win over the Jaguars.

Detroit at Miami. You’re kidding, right? Dolphins will abuse the Lions.

St. Louis at Denver. This was my hardest game to pick. But something is nudging me in the direction of the Broncos. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that my dad & stepmom moved to Denver last January. In any case, the Broncos will ensure that the Super Bowl hangover will last just a little while longer for the Rams.

Seattle at Oakland. Gruden who? Raiders win.

New Orleans at Tampa Bay. The Gruden era begins. Pity that it begins at the Saints’ expense. The Bucs win.

Dallas at Houston. Welcome to the NFL, Texans. Your first regular season loss will come courtesy of the Cowboys. Have fun.

Monday’s game

Pittsburgh at New England. The Patriots were the flash-in-the-pan boy wonders last season. They should still be fun to watch, but I have strong doubts that they will repeat as champs. The Steelers are a hungry team, and will not let the hoopla of the new stadium opening distract them. Steelers spoil the party and win this game.

Survivor: Vikings
Loser: Seattle

Still busy, but apparently that work stuff can wait… also thanks to Atreyu for doing the coding.

Thursday’s Game
San Francisco at New York Giants.
Well, given the picks in my other thread I need to go with the 49ers, but I’m feeling less sure of myself now. Those Fantasy Football drafts can mess with your head, you know. Still, I think the Giants are a team on decline and the 49ers are on the rise, it’s just that I give a lot of weight, probably too much, to home field.
49ers win 24 -17

Sunday’s games
Philadelphia at Tennessee
Home field thing again. I’m sure the Eagles take this in Philly, but on the road, yikes. Also, I believe George is back and McNair is, AFAIK, still healthy.
Titans 24 - 21

N.Y. Jets at Buffalo
Both of these games were close last year; the first was a shoot out in Buffalo which the Bills just lost, 42-36. The second was a low scoring affair at the Meadowlands which the Bills just won 14-9. Bledsoe has something to prove and will be the difference.
Bills 27 - 24

Arizona at Washington
It’s hard to see Spurrier’s new team losing to Arizona at home. Not a lock, but if I were a betting man…
Skins 35 - 21

Baltimore at Carolina
Might be a while before either of these teams has another legitimate shot to win a game.
Ravens 16 - 10

Minnesota at Chicago
Please, Mike Tice, send Randy across the middle. And Brian, I think that Randy just called you chicken. Cluck, cluck. He he he.
Chicago 24 - 21

San Diego at Cincinnati.
Cincinnati is not that bad. But there QB is not familiar with the system and Michael Westbrook, their #1 guy, is not familiar with their system. But then you have Drew Brees handing off to LaDainian on the other side. Fumbles and INTs will mar this one, I give an Over/Under of 6 for total turnovers. Neil Rackers will miss two FGs.
Bengals 20 - 17

Kansas City at Cleveland.
If Tim Couch were starting I’d be solid on Cleveland. Without him, it’ll be tight.
Browns 19 - 17

Atlanta at Green Bay
Michael Vick, welcome to Lambeau Field. Terry Glenn gets injured or busted on the way to the game.
Packers 35 - 14

Indianapolis at Jacksonville.
We’ll see how well Edge is. We’ll see how well F. Taylor is. We’ll see how Tony can do with the Colts.
Jaguars 14 - 13

Detroit at Miami
Miami could win this on defense alone.
Dolphins 24 - 10

St. Louis at Denver.
Tough one. The thin air, real grass and lack of playing time in the preseason will slow the Rams just enough.
Broncos 21 - 20

Seattle at Oakland
If Dilfer were starting this would be a contest. Instead I expect Matt Hasselback to prove to the world why Mike Holmgren finally made the right choice. But the Raiders are getting longer in the tooth than many expect.
Raiders 21 - 17

New Orleans at Tampa Bay
Big problems on the Bucs offensive line. Last year’s number 1 is riding the pine with a bad attitude. Still, it’s hard to see Gruden not finding a way to win his first home game in his new home town.
Bucs 14 - 12

Dallas at Houston
Dallas is going to have an upstart season. They’re not all the way there yet, but jeez, it’s the Texans fer chrissakes! 15% is the Over/Under for number of fans in Cowboys paraphenilia at this game in Houston.
Dallas 30 - 17

Monday’s game

Pittsburgh at New England
Steelers will start off the defending World Champions’ season in the wrong way.
Steelers 21 - 20

Omni picks:
Looking back through the above, I took a lot of underdogs to cover the spread. That’s never a good sign. :frowning:
Pats, Saints, Packers, Cowboys and Titans. And I don’t even like any of those.

Survivor: Packers
Loser: Cardinals

Woohoo! Glad to be back at this, unfortunately its been a busy week and I really haven’t gotten the chance to dive into studying the match ups. Thanks for getting things rolling Shibb.

A little added info about the Omni picks for any newbies. It all started last year when I got into a IRL pool where the goal is to pick 5 teams against the spread each week. If you go 5-0 you win the pot, otherwise it rolls over. Its tougher than it sounds. I started responding to Gazoo’s picks with my own, usually in the context of deciding which 5 teams to pick for my league. The idea caught on and people started playing along and Gazoo added it to his format. As you read my predictions and picks, they’ll usually always boil down to which 5 games I’m going to use in my pool.

Without further ado, time to dive in.
Thursday’s Game
**San Francisco at New York Giants ** (Niners by 3½)
The G-men are going to struggle this year. I’ve got a feeling Tiki is gonna get hurt, and their defense will struggle alot, especially against good WRs. Here in the first week, they’ve got one of the best to cope with. TO will shine, big time, and the Niners D will easily stuff the Giants running game. The only X-factor that can change things is Shockey, even though he’s a rookie, everyone knows about him. He won’t suprise the 49ers, but he may still be huge and could singlehandedly get the Giants in the game. He’ll be the axis on which the Giants play-action passing game swings, and if it’s successful the game could be close. I’m picking San Fransisco to win and cover, but I’m not sure how confident I am[sup]*[/sup].

  • My pool isn’t using this game this week since its early, so it doesn’t really matter how certain I am of the outcome.

I need to run out here, but I wanted to be sure and get this in before gametime tonite. As soon as possible, I’ll finish with the Sunday and Monday games, and maybe heckle the rest of your picks a little.

First result of the new season:

49ers defeat Giants, 16 - 13

Giants against the spread.

Game is Under.

At least I got the right team winning. And my FF defense scored some points thanks to all the picks that Collins threw. But looks like time to ditch the great Dayne who was pathetic.

That was an ugly game. TO got his bell wrung early and must’ve been hearing footsteps all night. Like Shibb, I picked the right team, but blew the spread and O/U call.

On a whim I dropped Janikowski and picked up Cortez – thought I was hating life after he had missed two of three FG attempts. Wound up with 10 points out of my kicker in my $ league…no complaints.

Could you believe those defenses? Well 2 out of 3 aint bad.

BTW, my Monday night pick.

Pats over the Steelers, Under. Oh yeah and at least 5 references to the Blizzard Bowl win over the Raiders

Well, I’m glad last nights game wasn’t in the mix. Glad to say I got the team right, but was too damn stupid to remember to get to the Pick 'Em league to register the pick…duh. Can’t believe how pathetic TO was, though considering he’s on my opponents Fantasy Team, I loved it. What a pussy, he guys 35 pounds bigger than the whole secondary and flinches every single time there’s tough play. Remember the Bears game last year?

Lets see if I can tick off the rest of the games.

Sunday’s games
Philadelphia at Tennessee (Iggles by 1) OMNI
McNabb vs. everyone’s “sleeper” pick. The first week of the season is always a crap shoot, and there are no obvious games. I don’t think Tennessee will turn it around to the degree everyone else does. Their defense won’t be dominant like people are predicting, but they’ll be better. Eddie is and always will be the stud RB, and he’ll be back to old form this season. They’ll be back in the Playoff hunt in that weak division, but they’ve got Philly this week. The Eagles defense is better, and will stifle the Titans retooled passing game. The X-factor in this one is Frank Wycheck, if he can convert 3rd downs (because Dyson and Mason will be non-factors) helping the Titans to maintain possesion, they’ll get a win at home. Odds are he won’t, Eagles win and cover.

N.Y. Jets at Buffalo (J-E-T-S by 3)
I really want to pick the Bills to upset here, Bledsoe is my fantasy QB, and the Jets lost damn near all the important pieces on that defense. However I’m seeing Vinny, Moss, and Cu Mar having big days. It’ll be high scoring, but the Bills might take the first half to get rolling. My X-factor in this game is going to be the big rookie, Mike Williams. If he steps up and protects Bledsoe, he’ll devour the Jets. I’m going on a limb and picking the Bills to upset, but probably not as an Omni pick.

Arizona at Washington (Skins by 7)
Hmm, tough game to judge here. I think Spurrier is gonna be a hit, and I believe in Wuerffel. I watched the Wuerffel/Matthews tandem in Chicago, and Matthews isn’t it. He’s the “safe” choice, but I don’t expect Spurrier to be happy with eeking out 16-13 wins with defense. If Wuerffel were starting I’d pick the 'skins to cover. My X-factor is the Washinton QB, not only how he plays, but who plays. Matthews is gonna be on a short leash, and Spurrier is going to demand alot. If all the other teams were right about these guys, they don’t stand a chance. Playing Arizona in the equivalent of a season opener in the Swamp against Troy State, and we know how Spurrier handles those games. But then again, Plummer and Boston are good, but so is the 'Skins defense. Redskins win and cover, but its definately unpredictable.

Baltimore at Carolina (Criminals by 2)
Will anyone even watch this game? If so, WHY? Horrible I tell you. Whats it say when a team one year removed from Super Bowl Champs is only favored by 2 points over a 1-15 team? Did anyone ever expect to actually see the name Rodney Peete in a Box Score again? I can barely fathom an instance when either team scores. I’d say X-factor is Jamal Lewis, and his knee, but it doesn’t really matter, Ravens win either way. Carolina is banged up. Ravens win and cover, I feel so dirty. We can all agree that the 2000 Super Bowl never happened, right?

Minnesota at Chicago (Mini-Ditkas by 4½)
Da Bears!!! OK, I generally have a rule never to stake money on the home team, I simply am incapable of being objective. It’ll be a constant torment this year, especially after watching that defense just devour the 'Queens. Needless to say I’m picking the good guys to win and cover down in wonderful Champaign, but with the new home, the bias factor, and having Moss on my fantasy team I can’t in good conscience make it a Omni pick. The X-factor in this game is the Bears offensive line, if Miller stays vertical most of the game, we’ll be fine. If Minnesota gets alot of hits on him, then it could be trouble. Bears win, Vikings cover.

San Diego at Cincinnati. (Bungles by 2) OMNI
This spread shocks me, the Changers have a talented defense and last time I checked Cincy still had Kitna, Akili Smith and Gus Frerotte as QB options. Brees might struggle a little, especially late in the game, but not with a Tomlinson security blanket. The X-factor has to be Brees, if he avoids INTs they win, if he passes for 250 yards and a TD or two, its a blowout. Chargers win in a slight upset.

Kansas City at Cleveland. (Browns by 2½) OMNI
I’m suprised that Cleveland is favored without Couch. This game really should be OFF with that question mark. My X-factor is Couch, he’s listed somewhere between questionable and doubtful, but if he does play effectively Cleveland could dominate with the Couch-Green 1-2 punch. However the rumors say he’s out, regardless of what the injury report says. In that case I expect the Chiefs to upset the Brownies at home, I’m usually not sold on the Rams version 2.0 offense, but they’ll do just enough this week.

Atlanta at Green Bay (Cheeseheads by 7) OMNI
I’m gonna have to take the Pack this week, Atlanta will probably score against a overrated GB defense with Duckett, Vick and Dunn, but the Pack will score more, alot more against a defense worse than my high school teams’. The X-factor suprisingly enough is Favre, does he come out too keyed up and turn the ball over? Will he have any confidence in his receivers? Pack wins and covers.

Indianapolis at Jacksonville (Colts by 3½)
Tricky call, it all depends if Taylor gets hurt this week or next week. Dungy is a little overrated, but the Colts did shore up the D with new personel. Taylor didn’t look dominating in preseason, and Jimmy Smith hasn’t gotten any work yet. The X-factor in this puppy has got to be Edge, if he plays up to form it won’t matter how well Jacksonville’s big three play. If he’s rusty and Jimmy Smith isn’t, then the Jags win. Colts win and cover, barely.

Detroit at Miami (Phins by 8)
Ricky, Ricky, Ricky. Wanny, Wanny, Wanny. Who can root for these guys? Who really has confidence in them? But then again, they’re playing the Lions at home. I hate these picks, Detroit is bad, but I think they underachieved last season. Miami is solid, but they overachieved last season. Miami will win, but 8 points is a big spread for week one. My X-factor is Fielder, how many point will he give up? Create? Can he get Chambers the ball at the right times? Definately not a Omni pick, so I’m gonna be bold and say Lions lose, but cover.

St. Louis at Denver (Rams by 3)
This one’s gonna be fun. Unfortunately the Rams are on grass at altitude on the road. Bad news for a track team. Then again, defense isn’t the Broncos strength. Its a opportunistic defense, but Warner is real good at not providing oportunities. Denver probably has almost as many weapons as St Loius, I’d say the second best talent on offense in the league…except Griese, the obvious X-factor. I think he’s gotten beaten up more than he deserved in the press, and I think he’ll get it together this year. However this is a very good Rams defense, believe it or not. They’ll be the difference. Rams win and cover in a high scoring game, but close, game.

Seattle at Oakland (Tha Raida’s by 7)
I only know two things about the Seahawks. 1) I know Shuan Alexander is frigging awesome. 2) I know I know nothing else. Fills you with confidence huh? The Raiders are old, and should move the ball on offense. Don’t put too much stock in the age thing. As long as they are healthy, they’ll be fine. Luckily its the first week, so the “healthy” thing is a non-factor so far. The biggest thing I remember is that Mr alexander ran for 266 yards against the Raiders in a game. The X-factor is Hasselbeck, think he’s gotten better? Doubtful since Dilfer got alot of the work in camp. Will he turn it over alot? Perhaps. If he does it’ll be a easy win for the Raiders. Take the over in this one, and take the Raiders to win. I’m going to gamble a little and take the 'hawks to cover though.

New Orleans at Tampa Bay (Bucs by 6)
Most of the signs point to the Bucs in this one. Too many i’d say. I have this memory of A-Train steamrolling that vaunted Bucs D. The defense is hugely overrated this year. Sapp is still great, as is most of the secondary including Lynch and Barber. They’ll be average…but so will he Saints offense. Brooks is looking like a huge flash in the pan, and Haslett has never dazzled anyone with his offense. Deuce looks like the real deal, and should have a nice statistical day. My X-factor is Brad Johnson, if he runs a successful play action passing attack, it won’t be much of a game. I don;t think he will. I expect to see a Bucs team that plays alot like last year, Gruden or not. They’ll eek out a win, but it’ll be ugly and close. New Orleans covers.

Dallas at Houston (Boys by 8) OMNI
Houston will be bad without a running attack. I expect it to look like a carbon copy of the Browns in 99. The Boy’s aren’t going to blow anyone away, and Capers can run a defense with any personel. The X-factor here has got to be Quincy Carter. If he plays down to Carr’s level they might not cover, but I have a hunch they will. Cowboys roll in a dull game.

Monday’s game

Pittsburgh at New England (Steel-makers by 2½)
Talk about disrespect. I guess no one watched last years playoff game. I think the Pats added more than the Steelers did, and Randle-el won’t be an impact player. Bettis’ career is about over, and you’ll see him simply fade this season. There’s no reason to think he’ll do much against the Pat’s schemes. Gonna be a low scoring game, and the Steelers D will get them places. The X-factor is the turnover margin, defensive points might decide it. I expect Brady to make fewer mistakes than Kordell (duh), and really stick it to the “experts”. Take the under, and take the Pats to win and cover.

You people are awfully quiet this week! Where’s all the heckling?

OK, need to bounce this off you guys. I’ve narrowed my Pick 5 ATS down to 6 games. Here they are, mostly the same ones as I listed above.

Green Bay
Kansas City
Philidelphia
San Diego
Dallas
Baltimore

Baltmore is my most confident choice, and I’m not sure which of the other 5 to drop? Hit me with opinions.

Does anyone know where Gazoo’s website is?

What’s the line on the Philly game now, has it changed? I woundn’t touch that one. I’d also be worried about SD in Cincinatti.

OTOH, I think that without Couch that KC is a good idea, Dallas is more than good against the youngins. am taking Baltimore in my Survivor league this week, I think they are a lock to win. Rodney Peete? hehehe.
Also, I see Gazoo on a FF MB once in a while, but I am unaware of any website that he has.

Philly is still a 1 point dog.

Cleveland is down to a 1 point home favorite.

But for purposes here we’ll stick to whatever I posted before. This is anyway from a different line than the Sheridan one I used before. I pulled that from Sheridan’s at USA Today, but they don’t update after Friday.

And it has been quiet here. It’s almost like it’s so hot that people have forgotten that football season started.

And Omni, I enjoyed your picks, no major quibbles. My only complaint is about my daughter’s soccer game being in conflict with the Bucs home opener. I really miss that soccer game.

After that poor performance by my Niners offense :smack:, I’m too happy we pulled off the win to gloat any.