Seahawks win 99.99% of the time by giving the ball to Lynch 3 times.
From a very, very loyal and serious Pats fan.
Sorry, that play call is the worst ever. Seattle fans deserve to be outraged. You had us beat.
That’s not hyperbole. You just blew a won superbowl when you had THREE chances to cross 1 yard by feeding the ball to a guy we Could. Not. Stop.
That’s the kind of play calling that deserves to have that kind of result.
Seattle fans, get pissed off at that play call, I’d be asking for heads to roll. The most costly obviously wrong play call I’ve literally ever seen in my entire life.
If that came directly from the coach, he keeps his job because he got em there. But anyone else should get fired imo.
If someone wants to argue Edelman for MVP I won’t complain, but I find this statement curious. No matter how good Brady is, he can’t make LaFell and Amendola get open against Sherman & Co. He could be 10 times better than he actually is, and he still makes all those dink and dunk passes because that’s what was there. The deep stuff was covered, and the pass protection wasn’t there to let deep stuff develop in the first place. Over and over again the ball was out almost instantly and Brady still took hits. If you take Montana and give him the legs of Michael Vick in his prime, I still don’t see how he lights up the Seattle defense any better, outside of not throwing those picks, or overcooking that first TD pass to Edelman.
Looking at the box score, I just don’t see anyone standing out at all on the Pats. Even Edelman was just 9 for 109 and a score - a good night certainly but not particularly dominant.
All I know is that we (Seahawks) were outplayed and outcoached all game. The fact that we were one bad coaching call away from winning was a miracles.
Congratulations Patriots.
Plus, giving Edelman the MVP would have become really awkward when it comes out later this week that he played the last drive and a half with a concussion, and the NFL completely blew its concussion protocols again.
That’s a good point but I think Brady earned it in the final eight minutes of the game when down by double digits he drove the offense to two touchdowns against the best defense in the league (albeit somewhat hampered by injuries). His performance during those eight minutes were why he deserved the MVP.
This is just rumor at this point, but if this is real… like, for real for real?
(unlike the “2 pounds underinflated” / “1 pound underinflated” / uhhhhh we didn’t write down measurements / uhhhh it was just a “tick” under the proper amount bullshhhhh…)
Seriously. **Darrell Bevell **needs to get taken to the woodshed for not only the play call, but laying blame elsewhere.
The world has practically spoken, and it has said your play calling was ****ty there. You were wrong. Don’t throw your man under the bus, own up to it.
But hey, this is just rumor. Maybe we’ll wait until we get some friggen facts and evidence this time, and not just spread stuff aroun… oops.
Still wanted to share this, seemed relevant considering what I just said a few posts ago.
Pete Carroll took the heat, because he’s in charge. He’s not throwing his staff under the bus.
Bevell could learn a thing or two or more from following Carroll’s example.
Brady’s last 4th quarter 2 drives- 13-15, 124 yards, 2 TDs
Game winning drive: 8-8, 65 yards, 1 TD
Amazing against that Seattle defense. Picking up that 3rd and 15 early in the final drive was absolutely enormous. If they don’t convert that, with sill 5 minutes left, back in their own territory, they most likely need to punt there.
Brady drove for more points in the final 11 minutes than Seattle had given up in the previous eight 4th quarters combined
Also interesting: When Brady throws more than 50 times in the post season he is 4-1. When the rest of the league does, they are 3-27.
I would challenge anyone to produce a worse coaching decision in a major professional team sport championship game, ever. I honestly cannot think of one. It was flabbergasting.
I was trying to figure out the Seahawks’ chances of winning the Super Bowl if they just hand the ball to Lynch three times; it’s got to be 97% at worst. I have racked my brain thinking across football, baseball and basketball, or anything else, and cannot for the life of me come up with a coaching decision that is that catastrophic. Handing the MVP award to Tom Brady is almost an irrelevant detail; the game was ultimately decided by what I think may actually be the worst coaching blunder in the history of North American professional sports. The play call is 90% of the story of this game.
As to where to place the blame, while I find it unsurprising Seattle personnel are heaving the blame around, ultimately Pete Carroll is the head coach. I don’t think I’ve ever before said a coach should be fired for one play, but he should be fired. He had the Super Bowl in his hands, as near a lock to win it as you could have short of the kneel play, and he chose not to take it.
I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised anymore, especially after deflategate or whatever, but the sheer amount of speculative over-reaction to the hype of the Super Bowl is just fucking sad.
I hate Pete Carroll. I think he’s a cheat, a slimeball, and a coward. But calling for his firing over one play is just plain silly. He’s helped get Seattle to the Super Bowl twice in a row and won last year, and you want him fired over one play call? That idea is just spiteful and stupid.
Thought about it some more, read the analysis, my armchair coaching wouldn’t win any Superbowls anyway, BUT
(a) They said it was about clock control- you run a running play, the clock won’t stop, you call one timeout if he’s stopped, you get precisely one more chance to win.
But, if you throw a pass, clock stops, then you run, call the one timeout you have, and then run again.
Call a timeout if he doesn’t get it in, Beast Mode one more time.
Instead of 99.99% of the time the correct call being run the ball, it was like 98% of the correct call.
But it doesn’t matter. The difference is not significant. There’s almost no chance of a turnover which destroys all your downs and ruins what effect your timeouts have.
It’s seeing a fork in chess, and playing for the fork, but missing the checkmate with a forced checkmate on the board. It’s STILL a blunder, no way is it not a blunder.
Looked like Belichick knew he was beat also. He was pacing on the sidelines and had no answer for what he thought would be an inevitable loss. He had the look of knowing he had been beat. No way would they stop Lynch. No way they had enough time to score again. He was dead to rights. Seattle then kindly gifted him the win.
On a different note, before the encroachment and fighting penalty they were saying that Brady had to get it out of the endzone somehow. If he doesn’t and gets sacked Seattle gets 2 points and still loses by 2. What was the risk to the Patriots?
Yes, but in this SB, the longest any one player could have played was 33:46 (NE’s time of possession). And, obviously, value can come both from long, steady effort and occasionally flashes of true brilliance.
I think QB’s get far more than their fair share of MVP awards. But Brady’s 4th quarter earned this one.
Pats are forced to kick the ball away immediately thereafter, Seattle gets the ball with a time out remaining, and a 2 point game. One field goal wins, and that kind of reversal is far more likely than is comfortable.
Brady does kinda have to get the ball out of the end zone.
After a safety, the Patriots would need to kick it back to Seattle. They’d probably only have time for a single hail-Mary play, but not giving the ball back is a much better option.
And his two interceptions, one on the goal line, should have lost it for him.
I know it’s not going to happen. Barring an extraordinary performance by a single player, the QB of the winning team is usually going to win the MVP. It’s just the way it is. And Brady did play very well given what he had. But 35 dump offs and passes less than 5 yards doesn’t, to me, deserve an MVP. The WR’s, TE’s, and RB’s who got the YAC’s and broke tackles had as much, if not more to do with the yardage total he put up than Brady did.
There wasn’t a single throw that Brady made that couldn’t have been made by a dozen other QB’s. They weren’t difficult passes, they were quick hits throws used to negate the pass rush and give his pass catchers an opportunity to get YAC’s.
He was very good. He hit his receivers in stride, he gave them opportunities to make plays, he was (mostly) consistent, and he didn’t get flustered with the game on the line. But that was a win for the game plan and the players who got the ball and made the most of it. But there were 5 of them, the TD’s went to 4 different receivers. And there was only one Tom Brady.
I get that you have to pick one guy, so the winning QB gets the award. But that game was won because the Patriots played better as a team, not because Tom Brady was special.
(Little was the Red Sox manager that left an exhausted Pedro Martinez in too long against the Yankees in the seventh game of the 2003 American League Championship series. Yankees won and little was fired shortly thereafter.)