NFL Week 8

Of course there is no guarantee he will clear.

I am still not convinced that he is worth it for any team. His productivity is abysmal and he is a pain in the ass. I keep hearing the Rams, but I woul dnot want Moss around Sam Bradford, in his ear, “Pass it to me” etc. I think Randy Moss, these days, makes teams worse.

Really? I mean, I can see him trying to give the fans a bone, but a Jon Kitna/Randy Moss combo sounds less like a 1-2 punch, and more like a 1-14 punch, if you catch my drift. :smiley:

Could give Grossman/Moss/Moss a run for their money.:smiley:

So Rivers has thrown for more yards in the first 8 games than anyone in NFL history. Considering his only receiving target is a tight end, that’s pretty damn impressive.

Per Really not that Bright:
“Moss has 5 touchdowns and a hair over 300 yards through eight games, and yet has been traded and cut. Getting that kind of production from a third receiver would instantly boost any team into the top 5 offenses in the league.”

Actually, Moss only has THREE TD’s!!! (Not 5!!!)

Um, you’re wrong?

The Chargers’ passing offense is impressive for sure, but I think their stats are getting an extra bump because their special teams are so bad. Every time they allow a kick return TD, or a blocked kick TD, Rivers immediately gets back on the field rather than waiting through the opponent’s possession.

Yup. He’s wrong.

BTW it’s Tennessee.

My apologies, I am Wrong. Sorry about that. Paid a ton for him in Fantasy auction and he has really sucked, but not as bad as I thought.

Corrected link.

Tennessee was the 23rd or 24th team in the waiver priority list. They also weren’t on any of the “insiders” lists that I saw. Pretty surprised he got past that many teams, including the Redskins and Rams.
Shawne Merriman is going to the Bills too. Probably a smart move but I think Merriman is done, but the Bills need all the help they can get on defense.

Someone at SI - Don Banks maybe - had listed Tennessee as a possibility, since their other receiver got hurt this past week. That should make things entertaining around here for a while.

Titans got him.

In unrelated NFL chatter, why can’t the NFL come out with a fucking iphone app for their audiopass service? I’d love to be able to get a direct feed to my game’s audio while I was at the sports bar, but all they’ve got is a flash-based player. A significant chunk of their potential market has to come from people with smart phones - I mean, most people don’t settle just for listening to the audio of a game alone at home on their computers.

Do you know what the word “abysmal” means? Hint: it does not describe Moss’ productivity under any definition.

OIn his last 16 games Moss has averaged 3 catches and less than 50 yards a game…abysmal, IMO.

Okay… let’s separate the fact that he’s probably not a guy you want to share a beer with with what he does on a football field. Against the pats Brandon Merriweather couldn’t walk down into the box against Adrian Peterson. Hence on the opening two drives Peterson was whipping their ass. Brandon Merriweather also couldn’t shade to Percy Harvin on obvious passing downs because he had to stay ten yards back further than normal to shade on Randy’s side of the field. Hence Harvin was operating against single coverage. THAT is what Randy does when he isn’t catching the ball. When the Patriots lose in the playoffs one of the reasons will be because Ed Reed can let his guy handle Branch and that other stiff one on one and sneak up on Ben Jarvis green and jam Welker at the slot. When the viking finish 7-9 part of the reason will be because nothing underneath will come open for Brett. Theirs no way Sidney can come back THIS year and be effective IMO…

It’s interesting how players like Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Brandon Marshall, Reggie Wayne, Roddy White, DSeSean Jackson, etc. all manage to get catches. Moss isn’t worth it.

I don’t think you even need a stud WR if your QB is good. Eli was never as good with Plaxico Burress as he has been with the combination of Smith/Nicks/Manningham. An argument could be made that the diva nature of Burress (and Shockey and Tiki) actually hampered Eli’s development more than their raw talent helped it.

The obvious reasons that Randy Moss might not be successful with the Titans are his attitude and his age. As for the first, I don’t think that we as fans are in any position to confidently assess the effect his personality will have on his play, and in any event he’s had an apparently lousy attitude for essentially his entire career, yet has nonetheless been, on balance, stupendously successful. As to his age, yes, at 33 most successful WRs would be in a state of serious decline (or already retired), but Moss is not merely successful but a *great *player, and great players blow the aging curve with some regularity – for every Michael Irvin, who followed a normal aging curve by declining at 30 and being done by 33, there are probably two or three Jerry Rices or Marvin Harrisons, who still have one or more above average (or even elite) seasons left in them at 34+. So, there’s a healthy precedent for players of Moss’ caliber being very successful into their mid-30s.
However, I think we should expect Moss to fail in Tennessee, even by the standards we would have for him as a WR joining a new team in mid-season. The reason, as I alluded to previously, is grass. Moss is a demonstrably inferior player on natural grass as opposed to artificial turf, and the Titans play their home games on natural grass (they’ll play only two more road games on turf this season).

The raw numbers (through 2009) look like this. On grass, Moss averages: 4.3 r/g, 66.6 y/g, and .6 TDs/g; on Turf, he’s at 5.3, 84.5, and .92. It’s easiest to see the difference if you average those numbers out to a 16-game season. Playing a full season on grass, on average Moss would catch 69 passes for 1,066 yards and 10 TDs – good, but numbers befitting, say, the 15th best receiver in the league instead of a Hall of Famer. However, an average 16-game season on turf would yield 86 catches for 1,351 yards and 15 TDs.

Of course, there are two biasing factors. First, he’s played his home games on turf for all but two seasons, and you would expect a player to have better numbers at home than on the road (though that actually turns out not to be the case with Moss). Second, the two seasons in which Moss played his home games on grass, which account for almost 40% natural grass games, were spent with the '05-‘06 Raiders, by far the worst offenses that Moss has been a part of. To correct for these factors, we take Moss’ artificial turf stats solely from his road games on the fake stuff, and we entirely ignore his two years in Oakland.

If we do that, Moss’ average 16 game seasons would look like this:
Grass (excluding the Oakland years)
76 Receptions
1,170 Yards
11 TDs

Artificial Turf (excluding Oakland AND all home games)
88 Receptions
1,385 Yards
16 TDs
To sum up, the Titans probably think that they’re getting a player who’s aging, unfamiliar with their offense, and likely to be difficult to work with, but who has a good chance to contribute in spite of those problems because he’s a great player. Unfortunately for them, he’s *not *a great player on natural grass, but rather just a good one, and for a merely “good” player that’s simply too much to overcome.

(Now watch Moss throw up a 40/700/8 the rest of the way just to fuck with me…)