In a recent Pit thread on the Kurds, Diogenes the Cynic goes way off-topic to declare his hatred of America. And Americans.
[An explanatory note before I start: I began a new thread because I didn’t want to allow Diogenes to hijack a different but important one]
Well fuck you, Diogenes.
Half the fucking debate in this country on the impending war centers on the number of civilian casualties, OK? Read a newspaper. Do you want me to provide cites where these issues are discussed?
Where the hell is your moral compass, asshole? Do you want tolls on how many Iraqi civilians have been brutally murdered under Saddam Hussein’s orders? How many have been wrongly imprisoned, tortured, and forced to watch their own children die? That’s not even including the children who have starved because of Saddam’s exploitation of Iraq’s wealth to build himself palaces and lavish mosques. Yes, there will be Iraqi civilians killed. But how many more will be killed if we don’t do anything? Do you really believe his latest bullshit, emptying his prisons and letting everyone go free? How long do you honestly think it will be till the Republican Guard rounds all those prisoners back up for a new round of torturing?
So fuck you, we’re not a bunch of “fucking morons who mindlessly swallow propaganda.” And no, we don’t “get off on killing people”? “Especially brown people”? Who the fuck are you to call us a nation of warmongering racists? Your simplistic labeling of all war as “EVIL” (incidentally, would you have classified bin Laden or Hussein as such?), and your allegations that we would rather bury our heads in the sand than hear the truth are evidence of your complete and utter idiocy. We have diversity of opinion in this country, and unlike the country we are going to war with, we tolerate dissent. So labels, especially the vicious labels you have put out there, cannot possibly apply to the country as a whole.
You tell us how we’ve never seen any war, or any hardships. There’s a 16-acre hole in downtown Manhattan that would say differently. We watched the murder of 3000 of our compatriots live on TV, so damn right we knew war. Did you have the peril of thinking your father might have been killed that day? I know, I know, American chickens coming home to roost, right?
In any case, the mere fact that you’ve “seen war” does not make you infinitely more qualified than any of us to talk about it. Both my parents and their families had to leave their homelands - my father from Algeria because of Islamist/Arab nationalist terrorism, my mother from Romania because of communism. Does that make them the only people allowed to have an opinion on those subjects? Despite what you seem to think, you are not better than everybody else.
And then, of course, you chime back in with “BTW I’m not defending any attacks on the Kurds. I’m not defending saddam,” which at this point sounds like “but I have plenty of gay friends!”. As far as you are concerned, the US is just as evil as Saddam. Well, you’re fucking wrong.
You know, I’m actually opposed to the war against Iraq, but some of the people who agree with me make me want to switch to the other side.