No doctor, I do not have "depression."

Exactly. I’m pretty sure that wasn’t the wording, especially with the “might” in that sentence.

Did he say you two weren’t a good match and you might need to find someone else?

Did he say you weren’t being compliant with treatment recommendations?

Did he actually say nothing at all about dropping you but you’re spinning something inconsequential into a Big Deal?

Maybe I’m callous, but it looks more and more like “look at me, I have absolutely no way out regardless of what people keep telling me.”

From the Charming and Vibrant EvenSven:

This is a good way to describe it. Inner angst is so fascinating and macabre. It’s like a mirror image, but all you see are the pimples, scars and glaring faults and yet, you cannot turn away.

My therapist diagnosed “situational depression” from not being able to find a job.

He recommended welfare. When I pointed out that would make me feel worse, he recommend drugs to make me feel better. I pointed out that I have had a serious pill addiction in the past and tasking drugs would make me feel worse.

I’ll looking for a new therapist.

The worst drug problem in this country is not caused by pushers. It’s caused by doctors. I’ve actually had a doctor tell me “This isn’t drugs. It’s medication.” In which universe is that a true statement?

In the universe in which chronic depression is a matter of screwy brain chemistry.

twickster, recovering addict who benefits from antidepressants, which are not “mind- or mood-altering” in an NA sense.

I think Annie’s point is that their being medication doesn’t stop them being drugs.

Right. Medications are drugs, and nobody in the entire universe should try to get a pill addict to take pills. My horror of addiction would negate any possible so-called positive effects.

It’s not “drugs”. It’s a chemical that regulates your brain chemistry in a positive, helpful, constructive way. That you equate your pill addiction with a perfectly therapeutic treatment is something you have to get over. Do you want it in suppository form, or something?

Are you saying that medicine affects everybody in a “positive, helpful, constructive way” as a “perfectly theraputic treatment?” That nobody ever gets addicted to medication, nobody ever suffers dangerous side effects from medication, nobody ever dies from medication?

I don’t want it at all, period. How will [del]drugs[/del], excuse me, medication help"situational depression."

So you’ve got a personal issue with medication. Most people don’t. Why are you so offended that your therapist made a suggestion that probably works for most people?

I’m not talking about “situational depression”, if you’re defining it approximately like this. If you have something like what’s in the linked article, well, welcome to humanity. So do we all. I have a new baby, I’m horribly stuck in the last stages of a demanding PhD program, and I’m 38 and too old to be trying to “start” a career after this. Oh, and we live in constant worry of losing our income, and I’ve ended up in the hospital twice in the past two months, and I’m likely to lose my last living parent soon. Plus, I’m a moody son of a bitch to begin with. I know “situational depression”. Everybody knows it. We deal with it in one way or another. For me, it’s exercise and playing music (both literally forms of self-medication, btw).

For others, yes, medication helps. For most of those who take medication:

  1. They do not get addicted.
  2. They suffer no long-term side effects.
  3. They do not die.

Your issues are your issues. Deal with them however you must, but if your depression is bad enough that only a chemical moderator will help, it’d probably be best if you worked at training yourself to think of it as a positive instead of a DEADLY KILLAR!

I’m not a doctor, but to the OP, I’m going to guess: yes, in fact, you do have depression. TAKE. THE. MEDICATION.

I think this comes pretty close to the point. In my younger days I had a world view very much like the OP’s. (I still fight against it every now and then.) I would complain to anyone who would listen about how worthless I was. I think that what I was fishing for was someone to hand me The Answers and solve all of my problems for me. But if anyone tried, I’d reject their advice and complain “But you don’t understaaaaaand!” I was creating my own blocks because it was my blocks that defined me. I think we all do that to an extent, but I was so mired in my own misery that I was completely blind to it.

So I can definitely relate.

mookie, some day you’re going to get so tired of your own shit that you’re going to make a decision to do something about it. You’ll realize that you can choose to be happy and you’ll be wise enough to make that choice. I hope that day comes soon.

Cool. So don’t take 'em.

I guess this answers my question. Mookie’s threads are the equivalent of the pranks my dad played when he was a kid. You’d put a bag of canine excrement on someone’s porch, set it on fire, then ring the doorbell. The fun came from hiding in the bushes and watching the person stomp out the flaming bag.

Yeah, except for the fun part.

Hey, there’s no shit on my shoes. As always, I’m just offering input. Cost me 5 minutes and nothing else.

I think for the mook-man, the fun has to be incrementally multiplied… many small snowflakes make a blizzard.

**mookieblaylock’s **a troubled, lonely, sad little boy. He needs to be isolated from everyone.

One of the top 5 Simpson’s quotes of all time!!!

I’ve seen waaaaay too many recovering people crash and burn because they refused appropriate treatments (including medication at times) for their other mental health issues. I’ve also seen some fail to get into ongoing recovery from their chemical dependency because they refused appropriate treatments (including medications) for their other mental health issues.

Meds are not for everyone, especially those with history of substance abuse. But sometimes they are the right answer for many folks.

I’m no fan of treating situational depressions with antidepressants, but in some circumstances it can be the right thing to do.

QtM, clean and sober for over 20 years, and carefully prescribing appropriate meds for literally a few thousand recovering people for over 20 years now too.