Yes, last week’s episode was the Madonna episode where we saw Kurt and Mercedes join the Cheerios (and perform with them at a pep rally) and we learned that Jesse is now attending McKinley High and has joined New Directions, against the protestations of most of the glee kids.
“Porgy and Bess” would have been funny too.
I just wanted to say that I’m a nerd, and I’m here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds. I mean uh, all our lives we’ve been laughed at and made to feel inferior. Any of you that have ever felt stepped on, left out, picked on, put down, whether you think you’re a nerd or not, why don’t you just come down here and join us. Okay? Come on.
I disliked this episode. The songs were lousy for the most part, the ‘very special episode’ vibe was thick throughout, and most of the characters weren’t in character.
For a show that likes to think it’s very liberal, it sure does caricature people, doesn’t it? Could they make Kurt a more obnoxious gay person? He’s manipulative, he’s chasing the straight guy, he’s shallow and selfish, and he acts out every cliche ever thrown at a gay man. All he cares about is singing, moisturizer, decorating, and fashion. Come on… I have gay friends, and they’re just like anyone else. They have hobbies that don’t revolve around their sexuality. They can even <gasp!> like sports.
I hated the reporter. He was a smug conceited jerk. I hope he wasn’t supposed to be a sympathetic character, because he wasn’t.
And the love and attachment Finn has for his dad seems completely forced. He died when he was THREE. He wouldn’t even remember him. My dad left home when I was three, and I had no feelings for him whatsoever. And that business about his mom taking the urn to bed every night to talk to it, and putting the urn in his favorite chair… For EIGHTEEN YEARS… That was just creepy and strange.
Bad episode. Bad, cliche’d writing. In the past, Glee has been smart enough to wink at its own cliches and turn them upside down. That’s what made it fun. The last two episodes took themselves way too seriously. If that keeps up, it will kill this show.
I honestly don’t see any difference between this episode and any other episode of Glee. It’s always seemed a little cheesy and heavy-handed to me, but the character acting is fantastic.
After Finn confronts his mother and she shuts him down, my husband yelled, ‘‘Pwned!’’ I really liked that storyline and particularly that scene.
Interesting – I really hated the Madonna episode but liked this one pretty well; looks like most of you were the opposite. (I also recognized the Burt Bacharach and Springsteen songs, but that “Beautiful” one only sounded vaguely familiar). It must just be that I’m old (41!).
Maybe we can all agree that Ryan Seacrest must die for making me miss the last five minutes of Glee for the second week in a row.
I liked it. I did want Kurt to get some sort of dressing down. He would not appreciate it if Meredith or another girl was constantly after him to turn.
Re Finn & his Dad- he didn’t just abandon the family & die, he was killed in Desert Storm. Thus, Finn & even his Mom have built a hero-cult around him. And technically it was 15 years, when Finn was 3.
It does need to tone down, get back to being less serious, more self-parodying.
Oh, but one cliche that was there from the start- the self-righteous uber-Christian abstinence-promoter who isn’t as pure as she claims. And when she comes clean is cast out by her self-righteous uber-Christian family. Gee, that was bold of the writers!
Actually, I think it was. It was built up to be: hit them with the big confession, then the family would realize that they need to be there for their daughter and to put aside their doubts and fears. That’s the way the scene would have played out on One Tree Hill or Seventh Heaven or whatever.
Sometimes, not having a twist IS a twist.
As a gay man myself, I understand how Kurt was feeling, both about his crush on Finn and about Finn and Kurt’s dad getting along so well. That doesn’t excuse his attitude, his bitchiness, or his manipulation in the first place, though. I think there was a LITTLE bit of dressing-down when his dad brought up their agreement (no changing each other on either side), but it was mild. And I don’t think this is over with Kurt, either. His standing at the sliding door (which was creepy in itself…does he come over all the time and spy on Finn?) was more of a “to be continued” than an ending of the arc.
They could have gone the opposite way and had Kurt’s dad throw him out because of his orientation instead, but that would have been cliche in its own right. Quinn’s confusing me, actually. I don’t usually watch Glee, as such…I hear it. I’m usually in the next room on the computer when my partner watches the show. I only watched last night because Cheno was on. So I don’t remember Quinn being quite so…nice. And selfless. And willing to genuinely and sincerely comfort someone like Mercedes…as Mercedes herself noted. Was this just an OOC swing for this ep, or are they really making her learn from her situation with the pregnancy and the lies she told about it?
And where is Quinn living, anyway? She got kicked out by her parents and then kicked out by Finn when the truth came out. Is she staying with Puck? Is she living in a slop closet and haunting the school after hours?
No one knows where Quinn is living.
I think Quinn’s change of character is out of convenience for the writers, so they could get Mercedes to sing “Beautiful.” Last week Quinn was drawing mean pictures of all the other girls; this week she’s using her Wise Mommy Hormones to counsel her New Best Friend. She hasn’t done anything overly nasty lately, but then she hasn’t gotten any significant screen time at all lately. Speaking of which, didn’t this show used to have a character called Puck?
Yes! More Puck! Preferably in some gratuitously near-naked scene. Please.
It’s NOT creepy…Mark Salling is 27!
Call me old fashioned, but any fieldtrip that involves road head would NOT be the worst fieldtrip ever.
It was so-so this week.
I prefer when the kids sing, not so much when the adults sing.
Plus, I like the more upbeat shows, and the entire choir getting involved instead of these solos.
Still, it is a great show and both surprised and happy that it is getting the strong ratings it is getting. Who’d’a’thunk that a TV musical series would actually attract viewers?!
Bleh… worst episode yet. Only highlight was the Finn/Kurt plot. (Finn’s mom and Kurt’s dad were both great!) There were, what? 4 plots this episode? and only one didn’t suck. I’m 33 and only recognized “Beautiful”. And I don’t really get the Chenowith worship. She’s a great singer and all, and a good character actress, but why does she need 3 (bad) songs when some stars of the show don’t even get one?
And where the heck was Emma? and Figgins? (especially after Sue set up the gag perfectly saying he’d ignore Schue and pretend to take a phone call. How could they not jump to a quick scene showing him doing exactly as she predicted?)
And since when were the Cheerios a singing group? Last week, they added some singing to the cheering. This week, they didn’t cheer one bit and the reporter didn’t even mention it.
A few chuckles here and there, but I really hope this isn’t the beginning of the end for this show.
Hmm, let’s see Desert Storm was in 1991. Finn was 3 when his dad died so he was born in 1988. Either he’s now 21/22 or the show is set in 2006. :dubious:
Finn’s a high school senior from a casually religious family who didn’t know a girl can’t get pregnant from being in a hot tub with a guy who ejaculated in the water. Nobody’s ever said he was terribly smart.
Did they actually say Finn was 3? I thought he was a baby. His line last night about that being the only picture of him and his dad would seem to be even more ludicrous if he was 3. That would put him right at 18/19 now in 2010.
so i’m a little less peeved than i was when i first watched this episode but i still think the “new” episodes stink. i think it’s because they were rushed into it. they had to borrow plot lines from next season and is just basically stalling for time.
however, they’re stretching it as thin as they can. they’re put the Rachel and Jesse storyline in suspended animation, they’re not talking about the baby, they’re not developing Shu and the counselor, they’re not using the “Vocal Adrenaline” coach, the madonna episode was a lot of filler, and bringing back chinoweth for a non-arc-altering episode… etc.
The Desert Storm thing bothers me too. I’m going to retcon it to "Pap Finn was in Desert Storm and died later (or else deserted the family and his mother said he died and has something in an urn to keep the charade so Finn won’t know he’s really in jail or Mr. Figgins or whatever).
Kurt was just Creepy Stalker Kid in this. I agree it’s not ‘stop the presses’ for a teenager to be self obsessed and needy but even allowing for that he was way out of line, especially spying on his dad and Finn and trying to break his dad and Finn’s mom up was a total bastard action.
And while I like Mercedes’ singing this “I’m good enough/I’m smart enough/and doggone it, I like me” self-empowerment moment was something even a 13 year old fangirl could see coming.
Kristin Chenoweth is always welcome anywhere, but they’re making her a bit too much like Karen Walker.